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Property purchase - should I pull out?
Fig Lee
Posted: 26 September 2020 16:20:03(UTC)
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Newbie;130758 wrote:
For what it is worth

A property in London - buy it especially where you plan in living in it.

Show me evidence where the property prices in London have come down over the long term.

Agree with the above in that your next move is not really affected in that if property prices fall it will be in line with your next move provided it is in a like for like area.

You paying rent at the moment.

Someone mentioned that you could rent and invest. Though theoretically correct it does not anticipate the rent increases. At the moment there is great demand for rental properties such that I am aware rental agencies and landlords moving out existing tenants to replace them with new ones so that they can increase the rents by up to 20% as opposed to a mere 5% annual increase with the existing tenants.

Rent controls which I doubt will be brought in - is only likely to affect existing tenancies and not new ones. Hence why switch out tenants. Yes there are costs but these get passed down.

Being in London it should not be hard to rent out. Remember that the city of London is welcoming to anyone who has monies with no serious issues about where the monies came from.

On top London property prices do not reflect the movements of the national property price movements. There is a big disjoint. If you were buying in the north then I would say hold fire ! Where I live property prices and rents are going up.

Worst case scenario - think of it as as an investment - if you were to move out you could release the equity to help with the next purchase and then rent this out. Any movement in the price will be reflected as the base for CGT purposes down the line.

One thing that is often overlooked is that house prices work in conjunction with Bank lending (and not not bank interest rates alone). A lot of wealthy people I know started releasing equity by way of remortgaging and having spare cash to hand before the the banks started pulling lending.

Lo and behold the banks have now started dragging their heels with lending on property (in fact various lenders have been increasing the rates which were applied / agreed).

The same happened in 2008 - people took out the maximum the bank allowed before the banks started taking away their limits (the amount which they could borrow) to shore up their capital. For these people recession is for the poor, for the others it is an opportunity to pick up assets on the cheap.

Hope this helps.


Thank you Newbie your words are worth much and yes, it does help.

I think that although there will always be cheaper or better properties coming on the market, time is relative in a sense.

I recall the bank failure of 2007-9 and experienced a slump that I thought would never recover. But it did so in time.
Fig Lee
Posted: 01 October 2020 18:01:55(UTC)
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I thought that this thread may be dead by now - but there is life in in yet!

So I decided to proceed with purchase paying the full ask price and right at the top of the market..

I have received all vendor paper work such as seller's pack and title search.

It looks like I am buying from a property buy to let company that have owned the house since 1981.

According to the seller there could be a pending planning application for a rear extension to next door but that this has not been filed yet. It seems to be the way in London to build out nasty flat roof box extensions in rear gardens. The agent mentioned that some Chinese had bought the next door place at auction (now why didn't I do that!).

Could this be good or bad for the long term value of my intended home?

And secondly, boundary walls obligations to left and right are "unknown" on the seller pack. I wish to make changes such as placing metal railings on walls to keep urchins out. I guess that the Party wall act applies here but not sure if this helps

In fact I am still reading all the papers received...
NoMoreKickingCans
Posted: 01 October 2020 18:25:24(UTC)
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Shouldn’t you review all the papers BEFORE you purchase or decide to purchase !
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Posted: 01 October 2020 18:28:24(UTC)
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hi FL i am involved with a party wall situation are you putting railings on the wall and is it yours or are you doing foundations etc
If its on your property you just give notice and go for it. If its on the wall that might be a different matter
Were there ever railings there - is it a post war house - what if any covenants are there

Best of luck it is a minefield if you have to defend your patch
Fortunately our new neighbours who thought they knew what they were doing didnt serve the notice correctly so we waited 3 weeks and then told them and referred all correspondence to my solicitor ( son) and our architect ( brother in law) as their people thought the boundary is straight but its actually got a 5 inch dog leg in that is not noticeable unless you come down our drive and the security cameras show they stood at the top and assumed it was a straight line, so plans are wrong

We have yet to introduce rights to light but I guess at the moment this will not be a factor in your situation
Get it done before the other people move in
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Fig Lee on 01/10/2020(UTC)
Jimmy Page
Posted: 01 October 2020 18:56:35(UTC)
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NoMoreKickingCans;131442 wrote:
Shouldn’t you review all the papers BEFORE you purchase or decide to purchase !

I couldn't agree more.
I would suggest anyone take their time. it's not the Wild West.
Choose a location; become an expert on local prices; give yourself as long as you need; shortlist a number of properties; get a deal; get legal assistance for searches and conveyancing; resolve ANY and ALL doubts; clarify everything; then, only buy the thing if utterly and completely happy.
Oh, and freehold!


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Fig Lee on 01/10/2020(UTC)
Tony Peterson
Posted: 01 October 2020 19:02:56(UTC)
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Fig

So you "decided to proceed" whatever that means.

Have you signed a contract yet??
Fig Lee
Posted: 01 October 2020 20:50:05(UTC)
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Tony Peterson;131446 wrote:
Fig

So you "decided to proceed" whatever that means.

Have you signed a contract yet??


Hi Tony,

Not yet.

Just paid for the legal searches and no exchange. So I am right at the start of the process.
Fig Lee
Posted: 01 October 2020 20:53:13(UTC)
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Jimmy Page;131445 wrote:
NoMoreKickingCans;131442 wrote:
Shouldn’t you review all the papers BEFORE you purchase or decide to purchase !

I couldn't agree more.
I would suggest anyone take their time. it's not the Wild West.
Choose a location; become an expert on local prices; give yourself as long as you need; shortlist a number of properties; get a deal; get legal assistance for searches and conveyancing; resolve ANY and ALL doubts; clarify everything; then, only buy the thing if utterly and completely happy.
Oh, and freehold!




Thanks all as ever for your thoughts.

Yes that's the plan - to review all the papers before proceeding,

My only outlay so far has been on legal fees.

So right now just doing my due diligence.
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NoMoreKickingCans
Posted: 03 October 2020 08:36:02(UTC)
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Just a random thought - have you been to the property at different times of day/week ?
Just shows what things are like - rush hour - school run hours - weekends etc
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Tim D on 03/10/2020(UTC)
New Simon T
Posted: 03 October 2020 08:49:32(UTC)
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NoMoreKickingCans;131577 wrote:
Just a random thought - have you been to the property at different times of day/week ?
Just shows what things are like - rush hour - school run hours - weekends etc

I cannot stress enough this is very good advice.
Also have a walk down at 11pm and 2am Saturday night/Sunday morning

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NoMoreKickingCans on 03/10/2020(UTC), Fig Lee on 03/10/2020(UTC)
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