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mdss68;135402 wrote:bédé;135397 wrote:I sold some CGAR at ca 1600h on 26th, believing the pricing time was 1700h. The contract note not received until pm 29th, dated 28th 1700h. (AJBell)
A good enough reason, psychologically, to be 98% ITs.
CGAR is my only OEIC, used for mopping up divvies and, ..... wait for it ...wait for it ... as a cash proxy. CG AR is domiciled in Ireland, takes a little longer to complete than a UK domiciled Fund would (in general, I'm sure there are exceptions). On the buying in side this also takes 2 days via HL, and (to my mild annoyance) I've yet to actually get my latest buy at precisely the day's price, I assume there's a currency conversion getting thrown in for good measure (if anyone knows a better explanation I'm all ears?). @Aminatidi ....CG AR as KL says is the scalable version, more designed to appeal to the Institution that wants to park £500m than me wanting to park my monthly divi's etc. Think back to Woodford, what finally killed him was Kent County Council wanting 250m back in one fell swoop. While KCC were quite right to assume they could simply sell their units, it was the underlying liquidity of Woodford's fund itself that became the issue. CG AR aim to avoid any such nonsense by holding more in the way of liquid (hopefully) ETF's and less in illiquid (definitely maybe) IT's and so on. If a large holder wants their money back, Mr Spiller will be able to sell assets easily into the market to meet said redemption, contra Neil Woodford, who simply collapsed because there wasn't a cat in hell's chance the open market was going to snap up what he was selling! Spiller needs to avoid at least some of the sort of less liquid assets that make up a rump of CGT, where the different structure allows him not to need to sell the assets themselves to meet redemptions, we just sell our CGT shares if we want our cash. It was Fundsmith V Woodford that really brought the point home, Terry reckoned he could liquidate Fundsmith in a matter of hours if needed. Woodford on the other hand I seem to remember was measured not in hours, but in years, literally. If you're an Institutional Investor, this difference really matters, the flip side imho being that in return, the Institutions will be "stickier" investors, less prone to panic selling. I do recall reading that CG AR actually had money inflows during the worst of this year, and as they've now passed an apparently important milestone of 3 yrs existence, the theory should now be that CG AR will grow more in size as many wouldn't take positions until a proven track record was established. Fantastic post (as are many others). @Tim I think if you look at the PNL quarterlies from back in Ian Rushbrook's time it was a very different animal to what it was/is under Sebastian Lyon/Troy. ANNUAL REPORT AND ACCOUNTS FOR THE YEAR ENDED 30 APRIL 2009Gives some insight. I do wonder whether to consider an account somewhere alongside/other than HL with lower dealing fees as it's funny how that £12 makes you think twice about whether to drop a grand in or wait until you have £2-3K spare to "make it worthwhile".
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