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How can I in invest in somethingthat will move with Chinese currency?
Jonathan
Posted: 27 June 2010 12:25:14(UTC)
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Joined: 09/08/2009(UTC)
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There is news that the Chinese currency will rise in relation to other currencies. I would like to invest in something that will go up, maybe just with interest, and be related to the Chinese currency rate. What can I invest in if I have several thousand pounds to put in?
Deborah Hyde (Citywire)
Posted: 28 June 2010 10:19:15(UTC)
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Joined: 10/06/2010(UTC)
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There have been a few pieces on Chinese revaluation on Citywire

here are the links.

http://www.citywire.co.u...rising-renminbi/a391421

http://www.citywire.co.u...global-latest-news-list

http://www.citywire.co.u...isk-asset-rally/a408372

I hope they are some help.

If not, get back in touch.

Jonathan
Posted: 28 June 2010 12:16:33(UTC)
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They are intersting articles about the currency but what I'm looking for is for either a fund linked to Yang or a way of opening a Chinese savings account without losing too much on the conversion of GBP to Yuan when I invest and and Yuan to GBP when I want to withdraw.
Charlie Parker
Posted: 28 June 2010 12:48:48(UTC)
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Jonathan. Opening a Chinese savings account is virtually impossible. You could consider the Neptune China Income fund - it was launched recently to capture the trend of the appreciatiing renmimbi that you identify. C
Deborah Hyde (Citywire)
Posted: 28 June 2010 13:29:51(UTC)
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Our head of research points out:

There are some Exchange traded currency funds that have been launched linked to emerging currencies. It might be worth keeping an eye out as at the moment they're based on USD.

http://www.etfsecurities.com/en/welcome.asp

He did warn though that It can open a bit of a can of worms with these funds though in their ability to track movements and their structure.

Others here point out there is also the Stratton Street Chinese remnimbi fund.
Gerry O'Kane
Posted: 28 June 2010 13:34:28(UTC)
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Ideally you're looking to do a carry trade on sterling versus the yuan, which is popular with fx dealers currently. (This captures spot rate rises and fixed interest). The only way you can access these unless you're confident enough to paly the futures market are through ETFs or ETNs. ETFS has a growing number of these (unsure of a yuan-denominated one) products and are planning to launch more in the emerging market space later this year, as Is Deutsche Bank who have two ETNs. But as with everything, read the small print and I'd avoid it altogether. All other ETF-type currency products are based in the US and while you can access them (Wisdom Tree, Rydex) y9ou are know taking on dollar risk (since you have to pay in dollars) and you'll need to hedge that risk.

In short, I wouldn't bother
Jonathan
Posted: 28 June 2010 13:38:11(UTC)
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I've heard that you can open a Hong Kong HSBC account, does anyone know anything about how to do this?
Gerry O'Kane
Posted: 28 June 2010 18:46:36(UTC)
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Don't bother. The HSBC account you would be allowed to open is denominated in HK dollars. They do have foreign currency accounts there too but in using them each time you buy and sell a currency HSBC converts sterling to the HK dollar (read US dollar since it trades in a very narrow fixed band) and then into the currency you want, The same happens in reverse. They do not have yuan denominated account for foreigners since the yuan remains a pegged currency, I understand.
Jonathan
Posted: 29 June 2010 01:13:05(UTC)
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So there is no way of investing in the thing I want to invest in?
What sort of an investment market have we got?
Gerry O'Kane
Posted: 29 June 2010 11:06:20(UTC)
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IT is a actually one of the few times you can't blame the investment market, all of the issues are as a direct result that Chinese government keep tight reins on the yuan and it is one of the few non-free floating currencies left.
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