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offset mortgage on BTL?
robc88
Posted: 23 June 2014 19:39:33(UTC)
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Joined: 19/12/2011(UTC)
Posts: 2

Hi

I have a offset mortgage (BTL). Mortgage is £200k but I've also managed to save the £200k to pay this mortgage off. Currently the money is offset against the mortgage. Question is should I pay off this mortgage?

FYI I'm a higher rate tax payer. Interest rate is 3% on mortgage also I have other BTL properties. Not sure what other info would be relevant to this decision.

I'd be interested in your thoughts/advice.
LEICESTER VESTOR
Posted: 25 June 2014 22:35:27(UTC)
#2

Joined: 23/06/2010(UTC)
Posts: 26


robc88

In reply to the querry posted by robc88 , I can give you a lay man's answer .

Why do you have an offset mortgage for a BTL property when on an ordinary

BTL mortgage you can offset all the costs and expenses against the rental

income .

Use your cash as deposit for i or 2 new BTL properties

and let them generate more income for you . by utilising all your tax allowances.
JohnM
Posted: 26 June 2014 13:15:44(UTC)
#3

Joined: 24/09/2013(UTC)
Posts: 36

Do you have a residential mortgage? Would have thought better to pay this off first.

Also I did once ask the revenue re paying off and then remortgaging, and they did say you could then restart to offset the interest on BTL (I only asked them re the same amount as I think there might be issues if you increased the mortgage v the original amount). If you go down this route I'd recheck this in case things have changed.
robc88
Posted: 26 June 2014 17:45:31(UTC)
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Joined: 19/12/2011(UTC)
Posts: 2

I don't have a residential mortgage.

All the other BTL's I own are interest only.

I was saving up money and decided to save it in the offset account instead of my current account as the interest I would get from a current account would be minimal.

I know the cost of the mortgage can be offset against the rental income but somehow from my calculations overall the tax payable would be slightly less in my situation by offsetting it. Not sure if it's because I've calculated it out incorrectly or missed something. I will check this out.

I'm not too keen on buying another property at present because property prices are high and don't have the time to search for another property. I only own properties in Edinburgh and London. One of those mortgages is pretty large (£675k) but market value is Aprox £1.4m.







Max Citywire
Posted: 27 June 2014 15:12:33(UTC)
#5

Joined: 30/05/2008(UTC)
Posts: 3

If not interested in buying other properties, I would keep off setting. It possible that rates will start rising, so this would give insurance for property portfolio. Generally I think it’s worth to keep credit lines open ( if it does not cost extra), just in case you need one for whatever reason.

You could on so consider putting this in to sipp, and then investing in equities. You would also tax rebate.
alan thorburn
Posted: 27 June 2014 19:57:45(UTC)
#6

Joined: 25/03/2006(UTC)
Posts: 23

Makes no sense to pay off any mortgage on present rates as investment income will more than pay mortgage interest.
Ian Lees
Posted: 28 June 2014 02:26:12(UTC)
#7

Joined: 22/03/2013(UTC)
Posts: 3

An offset mortgage is interesting proposition - which must take into account your overall objective and your capacity for loss. An offset mortgage is a means of accessing cash as required for whatever reason, loaned against your property, which is being tightened up by the reckless bankers, on instruction of the Government and their current regulator the FCA.
One view is that if you can borrow money at 3 % invest and gain a return of 7.5% after charges - this would appear to be the way to go (e.g Schroders Maximiser). Using the money to fund a pension with 20% guaranteed growth ( IT @20 % ) would also appear to be valuable ( higher rate taxpayers can obtain a further 20 % tax relief ). With a choice of investments in pooled investments or direct share holdings or property investment. It would require a lifetime cash flow modelling to look realistically at the costs, the benefits the advantages and disadvantages - your capacity for loss, and your appetite for such a strategy.
The RPI and the possibility of a bank base rate increase e of up to some 3.5% - over the next five years - and your affordability also needs to be considered. Put simply we would need to take a whole range of information and details to make a considered judgement - before making any recommendation. This is an appropriate product which offers flexibility - but can it work for you, an din your favour ?
Alan Selwood
Posted: 28 June 2014 06:48:42(UTC)
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Joined: 17/12/2011(UTC)
Posts: 3,379

Having the cash that you have built up held in an offset mortgage account allows you to reduce your interest bill while also reducing your overall gearing, because you could use the cash to pay off that much mortgage.
If you were to redeploy the £200K as deposit on a further purchase, you increase your interest payments on the existing property while adding to your overall interest burden and therefore total gearing.
As always, one of these strategies will prove with hindsight to be more profitable than the other, but we don't know which in advance.
At this stage of the cycle, with interest rates more likely to go up than down, my own view would be to reduce risk and keep what you have rather than increase risk further and risk being overwhelmed by an unaffordable debt repayment burden.
But it is your choice!
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