Zach F;273555 wrote:Steve U;273543 wrote:
ok thanks Zach - I'm not sure who you're slagging off but thanks for saying it's not me - Nasa, The Royal Society - anyone not financed by the US Government or big tech/pharma ?
The Royal Society is a charity and has multiple funding sources, same with universities. I get the point you’re making, but don’t understand why you wouldn’t apply that line of thinking to someone like Plimer?
40 odd years ago you certainly didn’t have the US government funding climate science, it’s something that’s grown from a hippy conspiracy to what it is now, widely accepted because of scientific consensus.
"Widely accepted"... "scientific consensus"... so Isaac Newton must have been wrong then.
Google is a search engine, and a biased one. I just did a search on global warming consensus and The Guardian appeared three times on the top page of results. The Guardian...
The 97% consensus idea is based on a research paper (Cook et al, 2013), which counted amongst its survey large numbers of papers that were incidental to the question, i.e. where the authors were not directly discussing the impact of humans on climate change, and made sweeping assumptions about what researchers believe based on what they did not say rather than what they did say. You can read it for yourself. It is cod science in its own right.
Global warming went from being a niche hypothesis, and an unpopular one versus global freezing in the 1970s, when the Thatcher government latched on to it as a way to promote nuclear power and hit the strike prone coal industry. Sweden did the exact same thing with the acid rain narrative when governments there were trying to persuade the public to accept nuclear. It has largely been driven by politics, not science.
You haven't named any physicists or other actual scientists who agree with whatever your view is. Just referred to vague groupings like "universities". So basically, you know better than Professor William Happer, an expert in atomic physics and climate spectroscopy, because you went on Google... That's what you'd say to him if you were face to face having a conversation?