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Bitcoin up $30k in a month...
Neminem Laedit
Posted: 27 October 2023 00:07:44(UTC)

Joined: 17/09/2018(UTC)
Posts: 1,471

Tim D;283971 wrote:
Understand Bernie Madoff
Understand the Beanie Baby Bubble
Understand Charles Ponzi
Understand Railway Mania
Understand The South Sea Bubble
Understand The Mississippi Scheme
Understand Tulip Mania

...and you'll understand Bitcoin and the rest of the crypto world perfectly.


Epically, Epochally WRONG for 15 years, but still posting the same old.

But.. Hey, It's a free country...

I don't need to convince you of ANYTHING, for me to be rich...
Tim D
Posted: 27 October 2023 10:45:15(UTC)

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Neminem Laedit;283975 wrote:
Tim D;283971 wrote:
Understand Bernie Madoff
Understand the Beanie Baby Bubble
Understand Charles Ponzi
Understand Railway Mania
Understand The South Sea Bubble
Understand The Mississippi Scheme
Understand Tulip Mania

...and you'll understand Bitcoin and the rest of the crypto world perfectly.

Epically, Epochally WRONG for 15 years, but still posting the same old.

But.. Hey, It's a free country...

I don't need to convince you of ANYTHING, for me to be rich...


But you absolutely do! Well, not me specifically - you've obviously got no chance here - but your future ability to cash out your crypto wealth entirely depends on you and the rest of your hodler clan convincing subsequent waves of suckers to buy your digital beanie babies from you at higher prices than you paid for them.

And the evidence is that you understand that very well: witness the constant need to come back and evangelize any time it looks like the scam is building a bit of momentum again. Noone does that for their Tesla/Apple/Microsoft etc stocks or their Fundsmith holding etc... so it's a big red flag for a pump-and-dump scheme when someone does start acting like that.
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Peter61 on 27/10/2023(UTC)
Strangways
Posted: 27 October 2023 11:55:55(UTC)

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Neminem Laedit;283974 wrote:
Strangways;283965 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;283703 wrote:
Strangways;283701 wrote:
Strangways;275134 wrote:
Strangways;274483 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;274480 wrote:
TJL;274477 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;274472 wrote:
TJL;274470 wrote:

Why does it have to be such a polarising issue?


Because many...

i) don't have the brains to understand it, or even try to.
ii) don't have the balls to take even a small risk
iii) hate with a vengeance those who do possess i) and ii)

Quite simple, really...


Your diplomacy skills are even worse than mine - and that's saying something.
Don't ever contemplate a career as a salesman (person).
Meanwhile, I will continue to keep an open mind about crypto currencies.
I don't know why anyone would do otherwise.




I'll take that as agreement with my coruscating insight, which is actually mere common-or-garden.

Why does bitcoin drive no-coiners to near-apoplexy?

Even more so when all their "arguments" against are shown to be untrue, ill-founded, or patently ridiculous. Year-in and year-out, ad infinitum...

I don't invest in gold, classic cars, whisky or paintings...

But I would not dream of taking to the keyboard (without fail it appears for some strange people) to try and abuse, intimidate and insult those who wish to. (all the while revealing my gross ignorance of the subject).

Because bitcoin is a fraud and in 46 pages or this thread you haven’t identified a single thing you can do with it.

Another opportunity for you to tell us what we can actually do with Bitcoin, and you haven’t taken it. Surprise surprise.


Still waiting…


You will indeed wait forever, until you educate yourself.

Understand Bitcoin
Understand Gold
Understand Fiat

Your task, not mine...


Still waiting… you don’t have an answer do you?


I've given you the answer above.

I'm too busy enjoying my present and future gains to tutor the pathologically obtuse...

It is highly enjoyable watching the board’s leading proponent of Bitcoin wriggle like an eel when challenged to identify a single use for Bitcoin. He can’t, because there isn’t one. Put him on the spot and the best he can do is say “it goes up sometimes”, much as horses win sometimes.

Bitcoin is for the desperate, who don’t have the ability to earn enough money for their needs, but dream of a windfall one day.


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Tim D on 27/10/2023(UTC)
Neminem Laedit
Posted: 27 October 2023 12:09:29(UTC)

Joined: 17/09/2018(UTC)
Posts: 1,471

Strangways;284022 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;283974 wrote:
Strangways;283965 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;283703 wrote:
Strangways;283701 wrote:
Strangways;275134 wrote:
Strangways;274483 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;274480 wrote:
TJL;274477 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;274472 wrote:
TJL;274470 wrote:

Why does it have to be such a polarising issue?


Because many...

i) don't have the brains to understand it, or even try to.
ii) don't have the balls to take even a small risk
iii) hate with a vengeance those who do possess i) and ii)

Quite simple, really...


Your diplomacy skills are even worse than mine - and that's saying something.
Don't ever contemplate a career as a salesman (person).
Meanwhile, I will continue to keep an open mind about crypto currencies.
I don't know why anyone would do otherwise.




I'll take that as agreement with my coruscating insight, which is actually mere common-or-garden.

Why does bitcoin drive no-coiners to near-apoplexy?

Even more so when all their "arguments" against are shown to be untrue, ill-founded, or patently ridiculous. Year-in and year-out, ad infinitum...

I don't invest in gold, classic cars, whisky or paintings...

But I would not dream of taking to the keyboard (without fail it appears for some strange people) to try and abuse, intimidate and insult those who wish to. (all the while revealing my gross ignorance of the subject).

Because bitcoin is a fraud and in 46 pages or this thread you haven’t identified a single thing you can do with it.

Another opportunity for you to tell us what we can actually do with Bitcoin, and you haven’t taken it. Surprise surprise.


Still waiting…


You will indeed wait forever, until you educate yourself.

Understand Bitcoin
Understand Gold
Understand Fiat

Your task, not mine...


Still waiting… you don’t have an answer do you?


I've given you the answer above.

I'm too busy enjoying my present and future gains to tutor the pathologically obtuse...

It is highly enjoyable watching the board’s leading proponent of Bitcoin wriggle like an eel when challenged to identify a single use for Bitcoin. He can’t, because there isn’t one. Put him on the spot and the best he can do is say “it goes up sometimes”, much as horses win sometimes.

Bitcoin is for the desperate, who don’t have the ability to earn enough money for their needs, but dream of a windfall one day.




FACT: Bitcoin has gone up mostly, not "sometimes", and will probably continue to do so.

Far from being desperate, I accumulated enough to retire at 35, over 20 years ago...

You do realise your tedious attempts to have the last word simply push the Bitcoin thread to the top again?
Strangways
Posted: 27 October 2023 13:41:01(UTC)

Joined: 23/12/2020(UTC)
Posts: 565

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Neminem Laedit;284023 wrote:
Strangways;284022 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;283974 wrote:
Strangways;283965 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;283703 wrote:
Strangways;283701 wrote:
Strangways;275134 wrote:
Strangways;274483 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;274480 wrote:
TJL;274477 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;274472 wrote:
TJL;274470 wrote:

Why does it have to be such a polarising issue?


Because many...

i) don't have the brains to understand it, or even try to.
ii) don't have the balls to take even a small risk
iii) hate with a vengeance those who do possess i) and ii)

Quite simple, really...


Your diplomacy skills are even worse than mine - and that's saying something.
Don't ever contemplate a career as a salesman (person).
Meanwhile, I will continue to keep an open mind about crypto currencies.
I don't know why anyone would do otherwise.




I'll take that as agreement with my coruscating insight, which is actually mere common-or-garden.

Why does bitcoin drive no-coiners to near-apoplexy?

Even more so when all their "arguments" against are shown to be untrue, ill-founded, or patently ridiculous. Year-in and year-out, ad infinitum...

I don't invest in gold, classic cars, whisky or paintings...

But I would not dream of taking to the keyboard (without fail it appears for some strange people) to try and abuse, intimidate and insult those who wish to. (all the while revealing my gross ignorance of the subject).

Because bitcoin is a fraud and in 46 pages or this thread you haven’t identified a single thing you can do with it.

Another opportunity for you to tell us what we can actually do with Bitcoin, and you haven’t taken it. Surprise surprise.


Still waiting…


You will indeed wait forever, until you educate yourself.

Understand Bitcoin
Understand Gold
Understand Fiat

Your task, not mine...


Still waiting… you don’t have an answer do you?


I've given you the answer above.

I'm too busy enjoying my present and future gains to tutor the pathologically obtuse...

It is highly enjoyable watching the board’s leading proponent of Bitcoin wriggle like an eel when challenged to identify a single use for Bitcoin. He can’t, because there isn’t one. Put him on the spot and the best he can do is say “it goes up sometimes”, much as horses win sometimes.

Bitcoin is for the desperate, who don’t have the ability to earn enough money for their needs, but dream of a windfall one day.




FACT: Bitcoin has gone up mostly, not "sometimes", and will probably continue to do so.

Far from being desperate, I accumulated enough to retire at 35, over 20 years ago...

You do realise your tedious attempts to have the last word simply push the Bitcoin thread to the top again?


An excellent opportunity for you to tell us one thing we can do with bitcoin. Or are you yet another desperate online fantasist?
1 user thanked Strangways for this post.
Tim D on 27/10/2023(UTC)
Neminem Laedit
Posted: 27 October 2023 20:00:49(UTC)

Joined: 17/09/2018(UTC)
Posts: 1,471

Tim D;284016 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;283975 wrote:
Tim D;283971 wrote:
Understand Bernie Madoff
Understand the Beanie Baby Bubble
Understand Charles Ponzi
Understand Railway Mania
Understand The South Sea Bubble
Understand The Mississippi Scheme
Understand Tulip Mania

...and you'll understand Bitcoin and the rest of the crypto world perfectly.

Epically, Epochally WRONG for 15 years, but still posting the same old.

But.. Hey, It's a free country...

I don't need to convince you of ANYTHING, for me to be rich...


But you absolutely do! Well, not me specifically - you've obviously got no chance here - but your future ability to cash out your crypto wealth entirely depends on you and the rest of your hodler clan convincing subsequent waves of suckers to buy your digital beanie babies from you at higher prices than you paid for them.

And the evidence is that you understand that very well: witness the constant need to come back and evangelize any time it looks like the scam is building a bit of momentum again. Noone does that for their Tesla/Apple/Microsoft etc stocks or their Fundsmith holding etc... so it's a big red flag for a pump-and-dump scheme when someone does start acting like that.


As usual, 180 degrees wrong and delusional.

It's not me who has a constant need to do anything. If I'd mentioned Fundsmith or Tesla, etc., rational people would just note it, maybe do their own research, or move on... Perhaps at least acknowledge the sensational returns to date. [Bitcoin knocks them both into a cocked-hat, of course]

Only Bitcoin seems to attract swivel-eyed, foaming-at-the-mouth naysayers who, kamikaze-like, are determined to throw themselves under the wheels of the greatest investment in the history of the world.

15 years and counting, the evidence demonstrates beyond peradventure that you are epically and epochally WRONG in your beliefs.

But that's OK, you have a right to be wrong. The more you demonstrate your wrongness, the more Bitcoin (on this thread, and in the real world) goes up!

Do carry on...
ben ski
Posted: 27 October 2023 20:11:48(UTC)

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Neminem Laedit;284069 wrote:
Tim D;284016 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;283975 wrote:
Tim D;283971 wrote:
Understand Bernie Madoff
Understand the Beanie Baby Bubble
Understand Charles Ponzi
Understand Railway Mania
Understand The South Sea Bubble
Understand The Mississippi Scheme
Understand Tulip Mania

...and you'll understand Bitcoin and the rest of the crypto world perfectly.

Epically, Epochally WRONG for 15 years, but still posting the same old.

But.. Hey, It's a free country...

I don't need to convince you of ANYTHING, for me to be rich...


But you absolutely do! Well, not me specifically - you've obviously got no chance here - but your future ability to cash out your crypto wealth entirely depends on you and the rest of your hodler clan convincing subsequent waves of suckers to buy your digital beanie babies from you at higher prices than you paid for them.

And the evidence is that you understand that very well: witness the constant need to come back and evangelize any time it looks like the scam is building a bit of momentum again. Noone does that for their Tesla/Apple/Microsoft etc stocks or their Fundsmith holding etc... so it's a big red flag for a pump-and-dump scheme when someone does start acting like that.


As usual, 180 degrees wrong and delusional.

It's not me who has a constant need to do anything. If I'd mentioned Fundsmith or Tesla, etc., rational people would just note it, maybe do their own research, or move on... Perhaps at least acknowledge the sensational returns to date. [Bitcoin knocks them both into a cocked-hat, of course]

Only Bitcoin seems to attract swivel-eyed, foaming-at-the-mouth naysayers who, kamikaze-like, are determined to throw themselves under the wheels of the greatest investment in the history of the world.

15 years and counting, the evidence demonstrates beyond peradventure that you are epically and epochally WRONG in your beliefs.

But that's OK, you have a right to be wrong. The more you demonstrate your wrongness, the more Bitcoin (on this thread, and in the real world) goes up!

Do carry on....


Bitcoin hasn't actually generated any net wealth yet. The price is simply what people choose to transact at – so there's always a buyer and a seller, paying and accepting the same price (minus friction).

It's near-certain far more people have lost money on it than made money.

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Dentmaster on 28/10/2023(UTC)
Neminem Laedit
Posted: 27 October 2023 20:29:37(UTC)

Joined: 17/09/2018(UTC)
Posts: 1,471

ben ski;284070 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;284069 wrote:
Tim D;284016 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;283975 wrote:
Tim D;283971 wrote:
Understand Bernie Madoff
Understand the Beanie Baby Bubble
Understand Charles Ponzi
Understand Railway Mania
Understand The South Sea Bubble
Understand The Mississippi Scheme
Understand Tulip Mania

...and you'll understand Bitcoin and the rest of the crypto world perfectly.

Epically, Epochally WRONG for 15 years, but still posting the same old.

But.. Hey, It's a free country...

I don't need to convince you of ANYTHING, for me to be rich...


But you absolutely do! Well, not me specifically - you've obviously got no chance here - but your future ability to cash out your crypto wealth entirely depends on you and the rest of your hodler clan convincing subsequent waves of suckers to buy your digital beanie babies from you at higher prices than you paid for them.

And the evidence is that you understand that very well: witness the constant need to come back and evangelize any time it looks like the scam is building a bit of momentum again. Noone does that for their Tesla/Apple/Microsoft etc stocks or their Fundsmith holding etc... so it's a big red flag for a pump-and-dump scheme when someone does start acting like that.


As usual, 180 degrees wrong and delusional.

It's not me who has a constant need to do anything. If I'd mentioned Fundsmith or Tesla, etc., rational people would just note it, maybe do their own research, or move on... Perhaps at least acknowledge the sensational returns to date. [Bitcoin knocks them both into a cocked-hat, of course]

Only Bitcoin seems to attract swivel-eyed, foaming-at-the-mouth naysayers who, kamikaze-like, are determined to throw themselves under the wheels of the greatest investment in the history of the world.

15 years and counting, the evidence demonstrates beyond peradventure that you are epically and epochally WRONG in your beliefs.

But that's OK, you have a right to be wrong. The more you demonstrate your wrongness, the more Bitcoin (on this thread, and in the real world) goes up!

Do carry on....


Bitcoin hasn't actually generated any net wealth yet. The price is simply what people choose to transact at – so there's always a buyer and a seller, paying and accepting the same price (minus friction).

It's near-certain far more people have lost money on it than made money.



Most numpties don't know how to invest in anything, period.

Who knew?
Strangways
Posted: 27 October 2023 20:37:43(UTC)

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Strangways;284039 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;284023 wrote:
Strangways;284022 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;283974 wrote:
Strangways;283965 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;283703 wrote:
Strangways;283701 wrote:
Strangways;275134 wrote:
Strangways;274483 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;274480 wrote:
TJL;274477 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;274472 wrote:
TJL;274470 wrote:

Why does it have to be such a polarising issue?


Because many...

i) don't have the brains to understand it, or even try to.
ii) don't have the balls to take even a small risk
iii) hate with a vengeance those who do possess i) and ii)

Quite simple, really...


Your diplomacy skills are even worse than mine - and that's saying something.
Don't ever contemplate a career as a salesman (person).
Meanwhile, I will continue to keep an open mind about crypto currencies.
I don't know why anyone would do otherwise.




I'll take that as agreement with my coruscating insight, which is actually mere common-or-garden.

Why does bitcoin drive no-coiners to near-apoplexy?

Even more so when all their "arguments" against are shown to be untrue, ill-founded, or patently ridiculous. Year-in and year-out, ad infinitum...

I don't invest in gold, classic cars, whisky or paintings...

But I would not dream of taking to the keyboard (without fail it appears for some strange people) to try and abuse, intimidate and insult those who wish to. (all the while revealing my gross ignorance of the subject).

Because bitcoin is a fraud and in 46 pages or this thread you haven’t identified a single thing you can do with it.

Another opportunity for you to tell us what we can actually do with Bitcoin, and you haven’t taken it. Surprise surprise.


Still waiting…


You will indeed wait forever, until you educate yourself.

Understand Bitcoin
Understand Gold
Understand Fiat

Your task, not mine...


Still waiting… you don’t have an answer do you?


I've given you the answer above.

I'm too busy enjoying my present and future gains to tutor the pathologically obtuse...

It is highly enjoyable watching the board’s leading proponent of Bitcoin wriggle like an eel when challenged to identify a single use for Bitcoin. He can’t, because there isn’t one. Put him on the spot and the best he can do is say “it goes up sometimes”, much as horses win sometimes.

Bitcoin is for the desperate, who don’t have the ability to earn enough money for their needs, but dream of a windfall one day.




FACT: Bitcoin has gone up mostly, not "sometimes", and will probably continue to do so.

Far from being desperate, I accumulated enough to retire at 35, over 20 years ago...

You do realise your tedious attempts to have the last word simply push the Bitcoin thread to the top again?


An excellent opportunity for you to tell us one thing we can do with bitcoin. Or are you yet another desperate online fantasist?


No answer? Show everyone what a fool I am. Tell us one thing we can do with bitcoin...
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Tim D on 27/10/2023(UTC), Dentmaster on 28/10/2023(UTC)
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I told you once.
No you didn’t.
Yes I did …

Sorry, your five minutes is up.
That was never five minutes!
Yes it was …
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Dexi on 28/10/2023(UTC)
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