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Windmill
Posted: 09 September 2010 11:38:06(UTC)
#11

Joined: 09/09/2010(UTC)
Posts: 4

Check this this out German Real Estate project Investment which is SIPP approved and is offering 25% return over 2 yrs seems pretty good and fairly low risk. www.luciancapital.com
Darrener
Posted: 09 September 2010 12:07:25(UTC)
#12

Joined: 13/10/2009(UTC)
Posts: 13

Lucian doesn't look suitable for widows, orphans or would-be pensioners, to my mind.
Richard Lander (Citywire)
Posted: 09 September 2010 13:03:07(UTC)
#13

Joined: 08/06/2010(UTC)
Posts: 9

Chris: high income and increasing capital dramatically is a tough ask. ever thought about a high income bond fund or PIBS?
Chris Smit
Posted: 09 September 2010 13:41:43(UTC)
#14

Joined: 12/05/2010(UTC)
Posts: 5

Well, I'm very grateful to all of you, didn't think I would get any comments at all. Obviously I am aware of the risks involved, the reason for using this forum is that I was hoping for advice from anyone with experience in Sipps(and not necessarily financial advisers but preferably individuals who have/own Sipps and haveexperience in the matter).
Lucian: Why not suitable to would-be pnsioners?
Richard Lander: Haven't seen any high income bond funds or PIBS performing adequately, but then, I'm a newby).
Thanks again to all for writing on this subject.
Windmill
Posted: 09 September 2010 14:07:41(UTC)
#15

Joined: 09/09/2010(UTC)
Posts: 4

I have received a corporate brochure from Lucian Capital and spoken and with them and it does sound a very sound investment, with Germany economy recovering really strongly and Germans buying the properties with generous tax breaks sounds a very interesting alternative, certainly considering investing my SIPP.

This is in the corporate brochure about investing through a SIPP, no harm in contacting them I don't think.

If you are self employed, a company director or a key employee, Investing with Lucian Capital through a pension trust can be the
ideal way to maximise your return on Investment. A pension trust is an entirely tax-free investment vehicle. No corporation tax,
income tax or capital gains tax is payable on any income or capital gains which arise within the trust. The trust must be set up and
administered by a Revenue-appointed trustee.
A leading pensioneer trustee, have approved this unique investment opportunity for pension funds.Whether you are Self Employed,
Company Director or a Key Employee Lucian Capital have access to a flexible range of pension products which will allow you to
invest pension funds in this product giving you more diversification in your pension portfolio. The investment is also available to
those who have Approved Retirement Funds. (ARFs)
Alastair Watt
Posted: 09 September 2010 14:33:42(UTC)
#16

Joined: 21/03/2010(UTC)
Posts: 2

Remember it's total return that matters. It's pointless getting a high interest and loosing your capital.

Beware of PIBS. They can and do go burst. I've lost approx 70% of the capital I had in PIBS.
Windmill
Posted: 09 September 2010 15:00:58(UTC)
#17

Joined: 09/09/2010(UTC)
Posts: 4

What I also liked about Lucian Capital is the trust will have 1st charge on the property so the capital invested is always secured.
Darrener
Posted: 09 September 2010 15:36:14(UTC)
#19

Joined: 13/10/2009(UTC)
Posts: 13

Chris: My SIPP is some 12 years old and is now in drawdown. Lucian Capital looks far too complicated for a simple soul like myself. I only invest in something I understand and I don't unstand where the 12.5pc return is coming from.
Windmill
Posted: 09 September 2010 15:56:39(UTC)
#20

Joined: 09/09/2010(UTC)
Posts: 4

The return as I see it is that the trust or your investment is funding the purchase of the monumnent protected buildings, the project company have a German network that sell the off-plan apartments to the German market who benefit from generous tax breaks becuase this is the way the German goverment can restore the heritage, the German buyers can also receive 100% finance so it is the German banks that will fund the renovation. The trust of pension fund have their investment secured by 1st charge registered on the building so seems pretty secure to me, and 12.5% per annum is certainly better than I am getting anywhere else.
All this is over a 2-3 years depending on the size of the project.
Chris Smit
Posted: 09 September 2010 16:04:34(UTC)
#21

Joined: 12/05/2010(UTC)
Posts: 5

Thanks for your input, Darrener, I guess I am as simple a soul as yourselves, my idea here is to get useful/interesting information and have it checked by people who know more about it. The 12.5pc profit on rental income looks quite possible, so I'll try and have it checked. Anything in your Sipp which has done well?
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