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How best to finance a rental property
Luke78
Posted: 05 February 2016 21:35:05(UTC)
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Joined: 05/02/2016(UTC)
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Hi all thank you in advance
looking for buy to let advice. we have excellent credit rating and good income.

we currently have a property paid for worth 150,000 GBP (sorry foreign laptop)
a one bed flat tenanted at 400 gbp per month (this has a residential mortgage with 13,000 outstanding) can cancel pay off or swap when ever.
we have just sold a one bed flat and this will give us 30,000 capital for deposit

financial advisor is steering us down the buy to let mortgage route but we are wondering if there is a better option?
perhaps release equity in property or residential mortgage then convert to a buy to let later? (first pay off mortgage on flat) any help or advice gratefully received
Sinic
Posted: 08 February 2016 18:33:37(UTC)
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Joined: 19/04/2010(UTC)
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I am by no means an expert in buy to let. I bought a 2 bed garden flat in a northern suburb of London for £245k a couple of years ago. it is now worth circa £300k. I put down a £100k deposit and a mortgage for the balance. With an annual rental of £15600 this equates to a gross return on the purchase price of 6.37%. However the mortgage interest is £5172 pa (fixed for five years) giving me a gross return on my own capital employed of £10428 or 10.4%.

In pure investment returns it makes good sense to retain the mortgage whilst ever the mortgage interest rate remains appreciably below the percentage return in rental income.
srg751
Posted: 08 February 2016 23:03:03(UTC)
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Joined: 10/08/2013(UTC)
Posts: 1,295

Please bear in mind the imminent changes to tax relief on buy to let mortgages. ( there won't be any). I'm sure you are aware but.....just in case.
jeffian
Posted: 09 February 2016 16:25:43(UTC)
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"Please bear in mind the imminent changes to tax relief on buy to let mortgages. ( there won't be any)"

Not quite so. I, too, was under the impression that, phased over the next 4 years, interest would no longer be able to be claimed as an expense against rental income, but in fact it seems that the relief will be limited to basic rate tax (20%). Still an impact, but less than I thought originally.

https://www.gov.uk/gover...or-individual-landlords

The other thing to be aware of is the Stamp Duty 'surcharge' of 3% on top of existing rates on any additional properties bought by existing property owners.
Andrew McDonald
Posted: 09 February 2016 16:45:59(UTC)
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Joined: 21/12/2011(UTC)
Posts: 6

jeffian;31375 wrote:

"Please bear in mind the imminent changes to tax relief on buy to let mortgages. ( there won't be any)"

Not quite so. I, too, was under the impression that, phased over the next 4 years, interest would no longer be able to be claimed as an expense against rental income, but in fact it seems that the relief will be limited to basic rate tax (20%). Still an impact, but less than I thought originally.

https://www.gov.uk/gover...or-individual-landlords

The other thing to be aware of is the Stamp Duty 'surcharge' of 3% on top of existing rates on any additional properties bought by existing property owners.



From April the 10% (of rental income) wear and tear tax deductible allowance on furnished properties is being removed as well
www.commercialtrust.co.uk
Posted: 09 February 2016 16:59:07(UTC)
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Joined: 09/02/2016(UTC)
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jeffian;31375 wrote:

"Please bear in mind the imminent changes to tax relief on buy to let mortgages. ( there won't be any)"

Not quite so. I, too, was under the impression that, phased over the next 4 years, interest would no longer be able to be claimed as an expense against rental income, but in fact it seems that the relief will be limited to basic rate tax (20%). Still an impact, but less than I thought originally.


Actually, the first statement is correct; from the 2020/21 tax year onwards individual borrowers will no longer be able to claim relief on buy-to-let finance costs, including mortgage interest. In its place will be a rebate of 20% interest paid (or the proportion of the interest that is not subject to relief during the phase-in period; 25% in 2017/18, 50% in 2018/19 and 75% in 2019/20).

The confusion arises because the rebate amount is set at the basic level of tax, which is currently 20%; however, this is not equivalent to the retention of a basic rate relief.

This is an important distinction because it means that taxable income will increase. In cases where landlords who currently pay the basic rate of income tax are forced onto higher rates because their interest costs are no longer off-settable, they will in fact be taxed on a loss.

You can visit our website to read a breakdown of the effect that this policy may have in some cases: Will basic-rate landlords be forced into higher tax bands?
paul kaye
Posted: 10 February 2016 14:32:44(UTC)
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Joined: 21/08/2009(UTC)
Posts: 20

If you are a basic rate tax payer,your situation on interest relief will not change at all.
your income will be your rents (less expenses insurance,maintenance etc)
you cant deduct interest,but you deduct 20% allowance.

I give an example present system on rents of £20000
less mortgage interest £10000 =£10000 taxable profit at 20%=£2000

new system for basic rate taxpayers=
Rents £20000 (you cant take off the interest of £10000
so you pay tax on £20000(rents) £4000 less 20% of your interest(£2000)=
£2000 tax due same as present system.
use your own figures the outcome is the same,just as long as you remain a basic rate tax payer !
To work out you tax rate,add up all your rents,plus your other incomes,less your personal allowance=your tax bracket if its basic 20% you have nothing to worry about.
Plus I believe this new rule will be overturned in court anyway,if not it does not kick in until 2017 and even then in steps to I think 2020/21
www.commercialtrust.co.uk
Posted: 10 February 2016 15:47:48(UTC)
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Joined: 09/02/2016(UTC)
Posts: 5

paul kaye;31387 wrote:
If you are a basic rate tax payer,your situation on interest relief will not change at all.
your income will be your rents (less expenses insurance,maintenance etc)
you cant deduct interest,but you deduct 20% allowance.

I give an example present system on rents of £20000
less mortgage interest £10000 =£10000 taxable profit at 20%=£2000

new system for basic rate taxpayers=
Rents £20000 (you cant take off the interest of £10000
so you pay tax on £20000(rents) £4000 less 20% of your interest(£2000)=
£2000 tax due same as present system.
use your own figures the outcome is the same,just as long as you remain a basic rate tax payer !


That is my point; some basic-rate taxpayers will become higher-rate taxpayers as a result of their taxable income increasing due to interest no longer being off-settable.

Let's take your example, but say that instead of one property the landlord has three identical properties financed with three identical mortgages. That means total rents of £60,000 and repayments of £30,000.

Rents less repayments is £30,000, which creates a tax liability of £6,000 (30,000 * 0.2)

When the new system is fully phased in, you will pay tax on the full £60,000; at the current bands, your liability will be (31,785 * 0.2) + (28,215 *0.4) = £17,643. Less a tax reduction of 20% of the finance costs not deducted (£6,000) = £11,643.

In this simple example, the tax payable has increased by 51.5%.

There are many factors that this does not consider, such as other expenses and income, personal allowance etc., but should serve to highlight the fact that replacing a tax relief with a basic rate reduction does not always create an identical liability.
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srg751 on 10/02/2016(UTC)
srg751
Posted: 10 February 2016 19:09:58(UTC)
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Joined: 10/08/2013(UTC)
Posts: 1,295

commercialtrust.co.uk

My accountant has sent me two emails trying to explain to me what you have have just summed up very well. Thank you.
www.commercialtrust.co.uk
Posted: 11 February 2016 09:00:18(UTC)
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Joined: 09/02/2016(UTC)
Posts: 5

It is my pleasure. I'm glad that I could help explain the potential implications of the new regime, though I should point out that my posts are for information only and are not a substitute for professional financial advice, which will take into account all of the factors involved in your own personal tax situation. (This goes for anyone reading!)
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