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Sara G
Posted: 29 October 2024 18:11:53(UTC)

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Laurence O'Brien;323751 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;323744 wrote:
Finally, the shocking truth about Southport. Al-Qaeda, Ricin...

https://news.sky.com/sto...-found-at-home-13243980

And only days ago they were still attacking Farage as a "conspiracy theorist"...
https://www.msn.com/en-g...amp;noservertelemetry=1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drbUEbxi6Hw



BBC, 19 August: "The violence was started by false online rumours that the suspect in the Southport attack was a Muslim."

BBC, 29 October: "[He] has been charged with producing the poison ricin and possessing a military study of an al-Qaeda training manual."

Verify that.


I'm wondering if this impacts on any of the sentences that have been handed down following the riots. If what you say as speculation turns out to be true, does it make a difference, or is it the act of speculating that is deemed to be illegal and / or the chances that it might lead to civil unrest?
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Keith Cobby
Posted: 29 October 2024 18:31:02(UTC)

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I'm not on social media but I thought the trouble started because somebody said the offender was one of the 'irregulars'. Many questions around this 'suspect', one of which is whether he was already known to the police/MI5. He has clearly been radicalised and the security services should determine who has done it (if in the UK) and these people should be deported (if not citizens) and if citizens should have their citizenship rescinded and be sent to an Islamic country before ours turns into one.
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Frank Spencer on 30/10/2024(UTC), Guest on 30/10/2024(UTC), John Rodger on 30/10/2024(UTC)
Taltunes
Posted: 29 October 2024 18:31:35(UTC)

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Laurence O'Brien;323751 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;323744 wrote:
Finally, the shocking truth about Southport. Al-Qaeda, Ricin...

https://news.sky.com/sto...-found-at-home-13243980

And only days ago they were still attacking Farage as a "conspiracy theorist"...
https://www.msn.com/en-g...amp;noservertelemetry=1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drbUEbxi6Hw



BBC, 19 August: "The violence was started by false online rumours that the suspect in the Southport attack was a Muslim."

BBC, 29 October: "[He] has been charged with producing the poison ricin and possessing a military study of an al-Qaeda training manual."

Verify that.


Possessing a military study of an Al-Qaeda training manual does not necessarily make him a Muslim.
NoMoreKickingCans
Posted: 29 October 2024 18:42:11(UTC)

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So given that Two-Tier has now caused the 10 year gilt yield to rise by 0.5% costing the nation and its businesses and individuals greatly and turning any nascent growth into prospects of a 2025 recession, will he resign ?

https://youtu.be/sxT9gOS6_j0
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Laurence O'Brien
Posted: 29 October 2024 18:51:19(UTC)

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Taltunes;323755 wrote:
Laurence O'Brien;323751 wrote:
Neminem Laedit;323744 wrote:
Finally, the shocking truth about Southport. Al-Qaeda, Ricin...

https://news.sky.com/sto...-found-at-home-13243980

And only days ago they were still attacking Farage as a "conspiracy theorist"...
https://www.msn.com/en-g...amp;noservertelemetry=1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drbUEbxi6Hw



BBC, 19 August: "The violence was started by false online rumours that the suspect in the Southport attack was a Muslim."

BBC, 29 October: "[He] has been charged with producing the poison ricin and possessing a military study of an al-Qaeda training manual."

Verify that.


Possessing a military study of an Al-Qaeda training manual does not necessarily make him a Muslim.


True. He could be a clandestine MI6 agent possessing it legally.
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Jay P on 30/10/2024(UTC), Guest on 30/10/2024(UTC)
Robin B
Posted: 30 October 2024 09:04:29(UTC)

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Sara G;323753 wrote:


I'm wondering if this impacts on any of the sentences that have been handed down following the riots. If what you say as speculation turns out to be true, does it make a difference, or is it the act of speculating that is deemed to be illegal and / or the chances that it might lead to civil unrest?


Are we even allowed to discuss this subject at all or will we be thrown in prison? They have created a stifling atmosphere of uncertainty and fear - it's the angry phase, augmenting all the usual gaslighting that goes on in this abusive relationship between government and governed.
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Laurence O'Brien
Posted: 30 October 2024 10:26:55(UTC)

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We were warned about spreading misinformation online whilst being told that the person arrested was a Christian from Cardiff accompanied by a photo of an innocent looking little schoolboy. We can see who was spreading misinformation. Yvette Balls should resign.
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Jay P on 30/10/2024(UTC), Robin B on 30/10/2024(UTC), Guest on 30/10/2024(UTC), ANDREW FOSTER on 30/10/2024(UTC), John Rodger on 30/10/2024(UTC), Nigel Harris on 30/10/2024(UTC), stephen_s on 30/10/2024(UTC), Neminem Laedit on 30/10/2024(UTC)
Robin B
Posted: 30 October 2024 11:31:40(UTC)

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Shocking details finally released... the day before what is likely to be an unpopular budget. Just a coincidence of course.
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ANDREW FOSTER
Posted: 30 October 2024 12:38:06(UTC)

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Keith Cobby;323754 wrote:
I'm not on social media but I thought the trouble started because somebody said the offender was one of the 'irregulars'. .


I thought the trouble started because some guy stabbed and killed some children at a party...

Taltunes;323755 wrote:


Possessing a military study of an Al-Qaeda training manual does not necessarily make him a Muslim.


True, but it does make it terror related....
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Sheerman on 30/10/2024(UTC), Sara G on 30/10/2024(UTC), Martina on 30/10/2024(UTC), Robin B on 30/10/2024(UTC), guantou on 30/10/2024(UTC), stephen_s on 30/10/2024(UTC), Nigel Harris on 31/10/2024(UTC)
Robin B
Posted: 30 October 2024 22:20:47(UTC)

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Peter Whittle on the latest revelations...

https://youtu.be/O0tL5PP4aD4?feature=shared

Honest and direct. Reassuring to know others feel the same way about where we seem to be.
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