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Laurence O'Brien
Posted: 02 February 2025 10:05:03(UTC)
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ANDREW FOSTER;332881 wrote:
One 'big thing' that is going on right now is a rapid shift in the position of the Earth's magnetic pole which, after some centuries of wondering around in Northern Canada, has adopted a virtual straight line trajectory towards Siberia.

This is quite well recorded and isn't in itself contraversial (other than needing regular changes in various navigation systems) It's shown here...

https://en.wikipedia.org...Pole_Positions_2015.svg

Now this changes dramatically the place where solar winds enter the Earths atmosphere, manifesting in being able to see Northern Lights in places rarely seen before (e.g. the UK!)

Does this affect the climate? Well lets look at the 'science'.

NASA says not.

Quote:

Some people have claimed that variations in Earth’s magnetic field are contributing to current global warming and can cause catastrophic climate change. However, the science doesn’t support that argument.

[..]

We’ll also discuss physics-based reasons why changes in the magnetic field can’t impact climate.


https://science.nasa.gov...ange/#hds-sidebar-nav-6

..and of course NASA are Rocket scientists. So we should 'believe the science...right....?

However. Other formal research directly contradicts this.

Quote:

Magnetic field changes from 1900 to 2000 cause significant changes in temperature and wind in the whole atmosphere system (0–500 km) in DJF

Direct responses form in the thermosphere and propagate downward dynamically, initially via the gravity wave-induced residual circulation



Published in the august Journal of Geophysical Research.

https://agupubs.onlineli...ll/10.1002/2016JD024890

And another published paper here...

https://gtr.ukri.org/pro...ts?ref=NE%2FJ018058%2F1

I have no idea who is right, but there is a definite takeaway here that the 'science' is NOT settled as many claim.

But we do know that there are visible efects because I've seen the Northern Lights several times this Winter in Derbyshire. And we also know that solar winds affect cloud formation and hence rainfall patterns.


The earth's magnetic pole is on the move which is why the lights are being seen in areas where they were rarely seen before.
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Jay P
Posted: 02 February 2025 15:28:20(UTC)
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Does heavy rain and attendant flooding at a small town in the tropics really qualify as 'global news'?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4z2py8448o

A relatively fact based article-

"Meteorologists say these could be the worst floods in the region in more than 60 years"

"Crisafulli said conditions were unlike anything northern Queensland had experienced "for a long time"."

"Sitting in the tropics, north Queensland is prone to destructive cyclones, storms and flooding."

- accurately reported, but, well, hardly 'news' .

However. Find anonymous 'climate scientists' quote -

"But climate scientists say that warmer oceans and a hotter planet create the conditions for more intense and frequent extreme rainfall events."

- tack it on the end, and suddenly it becomes yet more evidence of the End of Days.

It's a scam.
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NoMoreKickingCans on 02/02/2025(UTC)
Thrugelmir
Posted: 02 February 2025 15:57:33(UTC)
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Jay P;332972 wrote:
Does heavy rain and attendant flooding at a small town in the tropics really qualify as 'global news'?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4z2py8448o

A relatively fact based article-

"Meteorologists say these could be the worst floods in the region in more than 60 years"

"Crisafulli said conditions were unlike anything northern Queensland had experienced "for a long time"."

"Sitting in the tropics, north Queensland is prone to destructive cyclones, storms and flooding."

- accurately reported, but, well, hardly 'news' .

However. Find anonymous 'climate scientists' quote -

"But climate scientists say that warmer oceans and a hotter planet create the conditions for more intense and frequent extreme rainfall events."

- tack it on the end, and suddenly it becomes yet more evidence of the End of Days.

It's a scam.


A years worth of rain in two days i.e. 1 metre. In the next 4 days another metre.

Does 6 feet of water magically drain away...........
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Newbie
Posted: 02 February 2025 16:26:59(UTC)
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Thrugelmir;332975 wrote:
Jay P;332972 wrote:
Does heavy rain and attendant flooding at a small town in the tropics really qualify as 'global news'?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4z2py8448o

A relatively fact based article-

"Meteorologists say these could be the worst floods in the region in more than 60 years"

"Crisafulli said conditions were unlike anything northern Queensland had experienced "for a long time"."

"Sitting in the tropics, north Queensland is prone to destructive cyclones, storms and flooding."

- accurately reported, but, well, hardly 'news' .

However. Find anonymous 'climate scientists' quote -

"But climate scientists say that warmer oceans and a hotter planet create the conditions for more intense and frequent extreme rainfall events."

- tack it on the end, and suddenly it becomes yet more evidence of the End of Days.

It's a scam.


A years worth of rain in two days i.e. 1 metre. In the next 4 days another metre.

Does 6 feet of water magically drain away...........

As magically as the odorous gas that comes out of ones rear end I guess
But as it in the article - it is the crocodiles you need to watch out for - as they are lurching in the waters
Bit like climate scientists (who we are told to accept but not the shaman) that seem to leech in everywhere.
Then there is me who thought meteorologists were specialists re weather
Oh how we have advanced.
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Jay P
Posted: 02 February 2025 17:07:51(UTC)
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Thrugelmir;332975 wrote:
Jay P;332972 wrote:
Does heavy rain and attendant flooding at a small town in the tropics really qualify as 'global news'?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4z2py8448o

A relatively fact based article-

"Meteorologists say these could be the worst floods in the region in more than 60 years"

"Crisafulli said conditions were unlike anything northern Queensland had experienced "for a long time"."

"Sitting in the tropics, north Queensland is prone to destructive cyclones, storms and flooding."

- accurately reported, but, well, hardly 'news' .

However. Find anonymous 'climate scientists' quote -

"But climate scientists say that warmer oceans and a hotter planet create the conditions for more intense and frequent extreme rainfall events."

- tack it on the end, and suddenly it becomes yet more evidence of the End of Days.

It's a scam.


A years worth of rain in two days i.e. 1 metre. In the next 4 days another metre.

Does 6 feet of water magically drain away...........

Your point?

914mm rain in one day. In 1894.
https://knowledge.aidr.o...35%20recorded%20deaths.
And to repeat...
"Sitting in the tropics, north Queensland is prone to destructive cyclones, storms and flooding."

Climate Catastrophe, or simply Climatology? Which gets more clicks?
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stephen_s
Posted: 04 February 2025 23:14:12(UTC)
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Whenever I hear about 'renewables' and the difference they will make, I think of this interactive graph :-

Global direct primary energy consumption - Our World in Data

Set the bottom slider to around 1990 when the whole 'Global warming' narrative got going.

Note the total (including renewables) at just under 100,000 TWh and select 'Play time-lapse.'

The impact of 'renewables' on 'fossil fuel' use/reliance is pretty clear. :)
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Posted: 11 February 2025 14:13:01(UTC)
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Another one bites the dust

BP set to scale back green investments as profits drop sharply
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Jay P on 26/02/2025(UTC)
ANDREW FOSTER
Posted: 26 February 2025 15:29:01(UTC)
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More climate bollox...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70ekknr2rwo

Heat pumps are a total joke and the public is quickly realising it. Only for the gullible.

I'm kinda curous though. What schemes the UK is going to do to actually lower the CO2 in the environment.

I mean things like planes and agriculture are going to be churning it out. What exactly is on the other side of the coin. Other than growing trees which has a finite effect.

I just don't get what the plan is even.
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Posted: 26 February 2025 16:36:12(UTC)
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BP to spend $10bn drilling for oil and gas as it shuns net zero
Energy giant slashes renewables investment and ramps up fossil fuels exploration in strategic reset

Read in The Telegraph: https://apple.news/AMvXyajOaR8-ntf0GjI-sxA
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OmegaMale
Posted: 26 February 2025 18:05:18(UTC)
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ANDREW FOSTER;335850 wrote:
More climate bollox...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70ekknr2rwo

Heat pumps are a total joke and the public is quickly realising it. Only for the gullible.

I'm kinda curous though. What schemes the UK is going to do to actually lower the CO2 in the environment.

I mean things like planes and agriculture are going to be churning it out. What exactly is on the other side of the coin. Other than growing trees which has a finite effect.

I just don't get what the plan is even.


From that article:

"For electric vehicles, the market is already pretty much at parity with internal combustion engine vehicles, so we think just naturally that will start to be a choice people make," Emma Pinchbeck, chief executive of the CCC, told the BBC's Today programme.

What utter tosh (and that's being polite).

They are significantly more expensive to buy and depreciate like a stone.
If you can't charge at home, the fuel costs are significantly higher (I saw somewhere where someone had worked out that running a car using public chargers equated to around 22mpg.

That loses the case for EV without even considering issues such as higher tyre wear, higher insurance costs, suggestions that there is a higher fire risk, pathetic range, poor charging infrastructure in the more rural areas and so forth.

Heat pumps make EVs look good!

OM
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