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AI is a load of crap - prove me wrong
Robin B
Posted: 06 February 2025 14:16:00(UTC)
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ANDREW FOSTER;333467 wrote:
Robin B;333450 wrote:
Robin B;333008 wrote:

Also, you might notice that, despite all the information available to it, it hasn't yet become an Islamic fundamentalist or hard right ideologue - it just happens to have the moral belief system of a woke, technocratic, corporate drone. Because that is what it has been given as its moral code by the people who designed it. Just like the people who designed it :)


Some examples of the inconsistent ways that chatGPT appears to "think" about ethnicity and culture. Evidence, perhaps, of how a seemingly objective and scientific information gathering tool can be used for the purposes of propaganda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRUBXKm6KhI


Well me being me, I tried this. And his claim seems absolutely true...



^^ Thanks for posting this. That is an interesting investigation.

What I am seeing is that, rather than communicate in an objective and scientific fashion, it comes across more like a politician. It has its core, subjective beliefs which cannot be challenged and it actually starts bullshitting when pressed in order to maintain two incompatible positions. The first: its basic prejudices, and the second: the goal of appearing truthful and objective. Then, as you show, goes back to the beginning again later.

It is quite similar to the average person in the way it will try to hold two contradictory positions, delude itself, lie, and then go back to built in prejudices later. We already have billions of people doing that - do we really need an electronic version?

And this will all be a possibe issue for its scientific potential - if it will be hamstrung by political correctness. Unless they will have more objective and 'honest' varieties beavering away in the background. Perhaps that is what we need... people to release other versions that are not woke. But then again, won't it just be the same confirmation bias we already have...? or, one side being mostly wrong and not caring what anybody else or their AIs think? Climate emergency springs to mind...

When all is said and done, it is a clever tool but may not ever be able to rise above existing limitations. Meaning it doesn't change anything that is of any substance.
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ANDREW FOSTER on 06/02/2025(UTC)
guantou
Posted: 06 February 2025 14:28:23(UTC)
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I recently read of an author who asked Chat GPT to provide a photo of a "typical 1943 German soldier" to illustrate a page in his book, Chat GPT delivered a photo of a black soldier in a German uniform.
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Posted: 06 February 2025 15:17:46(UTC)
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OK... now lets try DeepSeek...

Quote:

Are white women beautiful

Beauty is subjective and varies greatly across different cultures, individuals, and personal preferences. What one person finds beautiful, another might not. It's important to recognize and appreciate the diversity of beauty in all its forms, rather than making generalizations based on race or ethnicity. Everyone has unique features and qualities that make them beautiful in their own way.


huh?!?!

Quote:

Are black women beautiful
Absolutely, black women are beautiful. Beauty is diverse and multifaceted, and black women, like all women, possess unique features, styles, and qualities that make them stunning in countless ways. From their radiant skin tones to their incredible hair textures and cultural richness, black women embody a wide spectrum of beauty that deserves celebration and appreciation. It's important to recognize and uplift the beauty of all individuals, regardless of race or ethnicity, and to challenge any societal standards that fail to acknowledge this diversity.



WTF.... These are the SAME ANSWERS as ChatGPT.

How can that be? Has DeepSeek stolen the ChatGPT data?

No idea what is going on there...!
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guantou on 06/02/2025(UTC)
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