John Gilmore;336295 wrote:My father is a healthy 80 year old widower - my mother passed 8 years ago, and my father inherited everything including a a part used SIPP valued at £600k. He has an estate value which is significantly over the £1M nil rate band and will face an inheritance tax bill approaching £300k on death after April 2027 (ie. the SIPP tax change when they become part of your estate). Of course there may be some care home costs to come, but with his current expenditure levels (he has state and other widows pensions approximating £30k per year) he is unlikely to make much of a dip in things. I suspect his estate will continue to grow (ISAs and SIPPs invested) before he dies and the inheritance tax bill will continue to go up.
My father seems convinced (fixated now almost) in taking out a whole of life policy that he has been accepted for - its has been recommended by his financial advisor to cover his potential IHT liability - this FA currently looks after all of his invested cash. The WOL policy will cover him on a guaranteed premium basis paying out £300k on death into trust.
I am nervous about the recommendation by the FA, partly because I just thoroughly disagree with WOL policies generally - why insure against IHT when you can tackle it a source by gifting/spending or things like Business Property Relief investments etc etc. My father has said that he does not wish to gift anything out of his estate. I have tried to show him the benefits of surplus income gifting from his SIPP, but he wishes to take the advice of his FA. Note the WOL has not yet been started, he is considering and thinking through things further in the next few weeks, with my sister and I.
I am slightly frustrated with the FA as they have a conflict of interest and clearly are biased in my view towards a WOL policy - they will gain a significant commission payment if the policy is started. And things like gifting and spending will only lower their current income levels in managing his investments, so why would they recommend them?
What do people think of WOLs to cover IHT liability? - if my father lives for a further 10 years, which I think he is highly likely to do, we will lose out in terms of total premiums paid in exceeding the policy pay-out. Of course if he dies within the next 5 years it will be a good decision, but I think my father will live a longer and healthy life for a long time yet.
You are right to be suspicious.
I am not an IFA but I struggle with what is effectively a big gamble on staying alive.
having to deal with the "olds" the intellectual flexibility diminishes and the degree of absolute certainty increaseswith years.
My suggestion would be to get another IFA review on a straight fee basis. Someone who gets no benefit from the decisions taken.
"Gifting" away your money when you have spent 80 years getting it can be an intellectual challenge. I have this issue with my Mum..."what if I need the money?" My Mum is 97.
I have a friend who has been supporting an IFAs family for years through his SJP fees. Almost a parasite living off someone elses good planning. I really dont like any relationship where your advisor is financially dependent on you buying a specific product. The conflict of interest is obvious.