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Thrugelmir
Posted: 11 March 2025 18:02:30(UTC)
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Special Kloud;337249 wrote:
or a tectonic policy shift for the next 4 years?




Could take forty years to restore the damage caused by 4 years of wanton vandalism.
ANDREW FOSTER
Posted: 11 March 2025 23:17:34(UTC)
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Apparently Tariffs are a tax on foreign countries and represent a tax cut for the American people..

So says the Whitehouse spokeswoman.

https://youtu.be/2s_rmTyOYUU?si=FkEZaDrgFY3gtya4

jeezus H Christ...

But I'm sure Robin can confirm to us that that's absolutely correct.

Robin B
Posted: 12 March 2025 10:13:37(UTC)
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They are levying tariffs on countries that have tariffs levied on them, and have done for years.

Does the EU impose costs on US imports? Yes, it does. Does Canada impose costs on US imports? Yes it does, nearing 400% in some cases. But that was all fine and nobody objected. It is a problem now that the US is seeking a fairer and more level playing field. It is a problem because the US tax payer doesn't want to subsidise waste and idiocy in other countries any more.

If you complain about this then you will appear like:

a) a hypocrit
b) a beggar

Persisting with one sided economic and moralistic arguments is delusional.

Why are so many of you begging? Don't you have any self respect?

Of course, it isn't you as such. You are just following regime narratives and instructions, as usual. I get why the numerous champagne socialists in our establishment are cheesed off. The David Millibands of this world, and there are many more, earning a million a year doing fake jobs. The wife of failed politician, Rory Stewart, whose charity lost a load of money and can no longer teach modern art in Afghanistan. All paid for by ordinary US tax payers, many in the Rust Belt living in towns that are falling to bits.

It has been like a vast money laundering operation to rinse ordinary Americans and transfer their wealth to posh grifters from Britain and elsewhere. On absolutely fake and ludicrous activities.

It is all of a piece with the situation on tariffs, on defence spending and so much else. They've had enough of it. I don't blame them. Try to see it from their point of view. Or are you too childish?

Our pathetic PM, who sums up everything that is wrong with THIS country and Europe, has failed to negotiate effectively with a president who has a soft spot for the UK. Campaigning against him during their election won't have helped, nor will all the poisonous rhetoric from Labour politicians during his previous term and over the summer.

Our establishment only have themselves to blame, and we pay the price. If you are doing the bidding of these clowns, then what does that say about you? It is bad enough that people vote for the useless cretins.

If we can afford Net Zero, a massive welfare state, foreign aid to countries with space programmes, and the costs of mass immigration, then don't be surprised if the Americans wonder why we need subsidising by them. It is like giving financial support to a hard up neighbour and then finding out they've been investing in expensive paintings and holidays in Mauritius. Think about it.
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s patel
Posted: 12 March 2025 10:36:04(UTC)
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Robin B;337315 wrote:
It is bad enough that people vote for the useless cretins..


Robin B, perhaps you should stop spending all your time in front of a mirror.
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andy mac
Posted: 12 March 2025 11:17:57(UTC)
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keep taking the medication RB
It will get better - perhaps

Is the earth flat
Has trump and Presidents Musk and JD commented

LOL I cannot wait

As a Farage party member who do you support Farage or Lowe ?
ANDREW FOSTER
Posted: 12 March 2025 13:19:23(UTC)
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Robin B;337315 wrote:
They are levying tariffs on countries that have tariffs levied on them, and have done for years.

Does the EU impose costs on US imports? Yes, it does. Does Canada impose costs on US imports? Yes it does, nearing 400% in some cases. But that was all fine and nobody objected. It is a problem now that the US is seeking a fairer and more level playing field. It is a problem because the US tax payer doesn't want to subsidise waste and idiocy in other countries any more.



Err.... USA, Canada and Mexico have a free trade agreement. The USMCA

It was negotiated, and signed by Trump. Duh!

These tariffs break the very agreement that he signed.

He hasn't tried to negotiate or amend, he just went slam dunk and broke the agreement. It's not that hard to understand.

And that's because he doesn't want to change the agreement. He wants a tariff wall. Because he's under the ludicrous notion that manufacturing will return to the USA. He does not want a level playing field, he wants a walled garden. He has no intention of negotiating on this.

A frying pan made in a place where wages are $1 an hour is always going to outsell a frying pan made where wages are $20 an hour to the rest of the world. So where there may be some local manufacture for the US only market, this stuff is never going to sell to the world.

Apple is setting up manufacture in the US, but it will only serve the US market. To the rest of the world, Asian manufacture will continue.

Adam Smith figured this out in the 18th century.

As you point out the EU has a tariff wall. Yes... And how is EU manufacturing doing? Has it worked as a strategy?

You didn't say if you agreed with the spokeswoman that US Tariffs being a "tax cut" for Americans... ?
MarkSp
Posted: 12 March 2025 13:24:51(UTC)
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people

PLEASE don't quote Robin B's posts. I have filtered him and I simply don't want to read the bile he puts out.

Thanks
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