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TD Waterhouse ISA versus HL ISA
Arborbridge
Posted: 15 December 2010 17:56:41(UTC)
#33

Joined: 21/07/2010(UTC)
Posts: 2

I agree with the generality of replies here: H-L for unit trusts and OEICs, but not for shares.
For shares I use Motley Fool/A J Bell who have very low charges for small investments, or iDealing who are also low cost for £1000 or more - plus they have a free stop loss facility.

A word of caution on Alliance Trust Savings: they are not so cheap as the headlines suggest. You have to pay £12.50 to buy or sell unit trusts (what a cheek!) and if you compare with H-L you would have to hold for about 5 years just to break even (depending on purchase size, obviously). So only deal with them if you are certain you won't want to change you investments within that time. It's also impossible to add small quantities to your investments without another fee.



s turner
Posted: 15 December 2010 17:58:43(UTC)
#34

Joined: 27/11/2009(UTC)
Posts: 9

RE Matthew #5
I have used Alliance Trust Savings for over 20 years, and been well satisfied.
Website not very easy to use.
Staff helpful, if not effusive.
Rather slow in SIPPs department on one occasion.
Excellent value for money, especially for a buy and hold preference.
graham craig
Posted: 15 December 2010 18:35:52(UTC)
#35

Joined: 25/05/2010(UTC)
Posts: 2

I have found H.L. excellent and efficient.
For me TDWaterhouse were poor. They never wrote or e-mailedd to acknowledge receipt of my ISA; denied having received one share and then told me it had gone to another account , without apologising.
Now all my (smaller) pension is with H.L. whose on-line service is second to none. I may well transfer my main pension to them.

Graham Craig
London, N.W.11.
No name 2
Posted: 15 December 2010 19:15:25(UTC)
#36

Joined: 03/11/2008(UTC)
Posts: 10

I like Alliance and have always found their staff very helpful. Of course they charge for a Unit Trust as they rebate ALL the trail commission(See "what a cheek...)

George
oxford dolphin
Posted: 15 December 2010 19:35:29(UTC)
#37

Joined: 25/04/2010(UTC)
Posts: 4

Just opened January's Which? There is a biggish table of "Discount Brokers & Fund Supermarkets" on p71. In the usual Which?-like way though it's not comprehensive: Alliance Trust Savings is missing. Otherwise looks useful though.
AvonSeaWitch
Posted: 15 December 2010 23:40:33(UTC)
#38

Joined: 08/07/2010(UTC)
Posts: 6

"Criticism over which funds to choose is a little unfair - they are an "execution only" broker after all, just like TDW (unless you want to pay for an advisory service). It is always a case of DYOR and you shouldn't act only on their pushy advertising or "recommendations"."

As I understand it, IFAs are entitiled to upfront or trail commission because they have provided advice. In HL's case, the advice IS their advertising and recommendations.

It is interesting that most comment on here veers towards using HL for the lucrative unit trust buys and someone else for the more difficult equity buying. I incline to using someone who serves me well in the difficult area for everything, it seems unfair to give the cream to the fat cats and the low margin business to those who work much harder for their money. Unit trusts are priced once a day and buying them on behalf of retail customers is a piece of cake. A proper system for share dealing is far more expensive, which is probably why HL charge more for it.
Dennis .
Posted: 15 December 2010 23:59:16(UTC)
#39

Joined: 26/12/2007(UTC)
Posts: 1,017

I have used E Trade (before they closed it down), Funds Network and Chelsea FS before moving to HL who have a super system that I use nearly every day for information and research. Coupled with intelligent people on the phone in Bristol they make it so easy to do business. They must be doing something right.
Snotter
Posted: 16 December 2010 11:23:02(UTC)
#40

Joined: 22/01/2008(UTC)
Posts: 1

H.L's great plus is that when you phone a real intelligent person answers the phone who speaks and understands English and is capable of answering your query. Also the rebate on annual commission give them a real plus. They also have a very efficient reliable service ( but too much bunf in the post pushing SIPPS ) Their 150 list is optimistic in outlook but makes it much easier to choose a fund than using a blindiold and pin. The real test of their fund picking is the track record of their own HL fund of funds and the list of funds in it versus index profile. For example their Special Situations has done quite well verus an avergae sector fund but still is just about the same in performance of a combined UK & world tracker. For their SIPP where their is no rebate on annual commission choose HSBC low cost trackers, where there is no penalty despite only a 0.3% pa fund charge.

For shares yes their charges are too high and their website is seriously inadequate in not showing forward 2 year broker predictions of pe & div . You have to look at Sharecentre's website for this info but SC share charge is far too high . I use HL for funds but for share ISA's opened a SAGA account which is cheaper and has the great advantage of being able to plug in automatic buy and sell limits.

What I seriously need is a website that shows things like CAP/Net Assets last and foward projections and volotility indicators . None of the providers share sites seem to ,provide this.
Roger.
Posted: 16 December 2010 18:30:08(UTC)
#41

Joined: 16/12/2010(UTC)
Posts: 1

I use H.L but the charges on stocks and shares ISA's are expensive. If you want unit trust trusts they are o.k. I am looking into moving my SIPP and ISA's due to the high charges.
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