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alex1490
Posted: 13 June 2011 18:40:00(UTC)
#1

Joined: 10/06/2011(UTC)
Posts: 4

I have just retired and have amassed a pot of approx 100k to supplement my pensions.

As it is the only 100k I have I do not want to lose it, an IFA has recommended an insurance bond with capital protection but when I look at the charges it looks as though everybody is making money but me!

Maybe I am being paranoid and it really is good advice.

Can anybody help me with this?
Spartacus
Posted: 13 June 2011 20:55:16(UTC)
#2

Joined: 13/06/2011(UTC)
Posts: 358

Personally I'm planning to put my retirement pot (500k) into a mixture of places, but the main destination will be income IT's such as City of London, Dunedin Income Growth & Henderson International Income...
TJLamb
Posted: 14 June 2011 11:09:19(UTC)
#3

Joined: 05/04/2011(UTC)
Posts: 82

I wonder how much commission the IFA would make on the bond.
Do you have to put it all in one place?
You could split it up and diversify.
As to where you invest the portions - that's the big question and the answer depends upon your timescale, future plans, attitude to risk etc. Good luck.
sgjhaghsdg
Posted: 14 June 2011 12:47:32(UTC)
#4

Joined: 07/01/2011(UTC)
Posts: 227

I second the advice regards investment trusts. Another big advantage of ITs is that the income is as a dividend, so no more tax if you're a basic rate tax payer. Preference shares such as LLPC and NWBD are also out of favour (with good reason!) and I couldn't resist those yields. Fortunately, I did manage to resist the yields in the Irish banks ...
dd
Posted: 14 June 2011 13:16:48(UTC)
#5

Joined: 15/09/2010(UTC)
Posts: 281

I am not against insurance bonds but if I were in your position, I would not put the whole of my 100k into any one product.
masud butt
Posted: 14 June 2011 13:24:47(UTC)
#6

Joined: 21/01/2011(UTC)
Posts: 15

Do not listen to IFA, listen to peopel in this forum & make your mind.
Maverick
Posted: 14 June 2011 13:48:38(UTC)
#7

Joined: 04/10/2010(UTC)
Posts: 59

I still think there's an element of tunnel-vision here. Say you invest in (amongst others) Dunedin Income Growth IT, you will receive a dividend of 4.7% - not bad - but the trust's share price is currently running at 29.3% growth a year. So you invest for income, but receive a far larger capital gain. The capital gain, depending on your other gains in the tax year, may well be taxed at a lower rate, or be free of tax altogether because it falls within your personal allowance, which is now (I think) £10,680 a year.

What this means is that you may rule out high-performing trusts like Standard Life UK Smaller Companies, which has a dividend of just over 1%, but is currently running at 74.6% growth over a year.

Given those figures, there's no way I'd invest in an insurance bond. Not only do I not trust IFAs, I don't trust insurance companies either. Do your own research (there's piles of free information on the web), grit your teeth and jump. It's a complete illusion that there's anything remotely like a risk-free investment. If you put the £100,000 in the bank you won't beat inflation.
David 111
Posted: 14 June 2011 13:59:40(UTC)
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Joined: 09/07/2010(UTC)
Posts: 176

Alex1490 - I am in a very similar situation. I did not consider insurance bonds because of the charges. My strategy has been to invest in Investment Trusts, transferring the permitted sum into an ISA each year. Even though I am retired I also put the current allowance of £3,600 (gross) into a SIPP (using the Hargreaves Lansdown platform to keep charges down) each year to benefit from the tax releif. My SIPP is invested in Unit Trusts. You won't find an IFA recommending this strategy because they make no money out of it.
sgjhaghsdg
Posted: 14 June 2011 14:00:40(UTC)
#9

Joined: 07/01/2011(UTC)
Posts: 227

Unless someone has a big cash reserve to tide them over during lean years, they need a reliable source of income that rises every year. A basket of high yield FTSE blue chips is OK, but you will need a reserve. A basket of ITs shouldn't need a reserve as they hold one themselves.

The Motley Fool boards have areas for discussing High Yield Portfolios (HYP) and also baskets of ITs. See luniversals posts and baskets for the latter.

I'd doing a bit of both, but I'm a few years off retirement, so am going for growth shares and ITs rather than income. After retirement, I'll use our CGT allowances to realign everything and "Bed and ISA" at the same time.
Darrener
Posted: 14 June 2011 15:02:24(UTC)
#10

Joined: 13/10/2009(UTC)
Posts: 13

sighaghsgd - What have you got against NWBD at its 7.96 yeild?
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