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How to cut spending by £76 billion: More road tolls but no cuts to benefit
Deborah Hyde (Citywire)
Posted: 22 June 2010 07:56:55(UTC)
#1

Joined: 10/06/2010(UTC)
Posts: 36

In a live studio debate last night, a Channel 4 audience voted for plans to cut spending by £76 billion by introducing more road tolls and cuttting public sector pension contributions but voted against public sector pay cuts and sugegstions we could all pay £10 to visit our GP.

The audience said they would welcome a VAT rise but not an extension to children's clothes and other items that are not currently taxed. They also voted by a slim majority against benefit cuts.

And the rage against the banking sector was evident as many audience members questioned why the whole country had to share the pain when irresponsible bankers had caused the current chaos.

They voted to raise £20 billion from taxes on tha banks.

Did you see the show?

Have you seen any good ideas on how government spending could be cut that are not getting a hearing at the moment?

What would you cut? And what would you be willing to pay for?

Play chop or not here on the Channel 4 website at http://chopornot.channel4.com/

Nick O
Posted: 22 June 2010 09:31:22(UTC)
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Joined: 29/12/2008(UTC)
Posts: 9

Didn't see the show but £10 to visit the GP sounds like a great idea. Most can afford it, would perhaps reduce 'flippant' visits so raise revenue and cut some waste. Need to protect those who genuinely can't afford it though.

In Wales we all have free prescriptions!! I imagine less than 10% of the population genuinely need it. I think it was a sweetener to prove the Assembly was good for Wales. They were also going to bring in free hospital parking. Why? Just make it reasonably priced and get some revenue for the hospitals.

Ian
Posted: 22 June 2010 10:00:10(UTC)
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Joined: 09/12/2009(UTC)
Posts: 17

I lived in the Channel Islands for three years and when I visited my GP in St Helier I had to pay £22 before I was given an appointment. The very few people who could not afford it attended the A&E unit at the hospital.

The result is that there is considerably less demand to see a GP and patients are given more time and attention and the standard of care is significantly better than in the UK. Hypochondriacs and time wasters think twice before parting with £22 and the system works very well.

I would support immediate charges to see a GP in the UK but I suspect that the majority of people will squeal like stuck pigs and reject the proposal outright without even considering the merits of the case.
Anonymous Post
Posted: 22 June 2010 10:18:15(UTC)
#4
Anonymous 1 needed this 'Off the Record'

I'd cut the £7.2billion overseas aid budget. Charity begins at home. I'd also cut the Scottish and Welsh assemblies and ensure the whole of the UK (including the currently discriminated against English) have the same benefits (or not). I'd also stop defined benefit/final salary pension schemes for all new starters in the public sector. Cut the number of MPs by half. Eliminate consultant expenses from the public sector. Don't tax the banks that did not need a tax payer bail out...they'll move to Switzeralnd.
Anonymous Post
Posted: 22 June 2010 10:58:34(UTC)
#5
Anonymous 2 needed this 'Off the Record'

I agree with anonymous - and would cut unnecessary payments from the state to well-off people!
Jon
Posted: 22 June 2010 20:57:22(UTC)
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Joined: 10/06/2010(UTC)
Posts: 28

The problem with many of these TV shows is that the audience think on their feet - ie emotionally. For example raod tolls are an inefficient revenue earner as they cost money to administer and all kinds of side effects such as diverting traffic. Far easier to raise fuel duty, which makes the polluter pay and has the green effect of discouraging car use.

And if by cutting public sector pension contributions requires public employees to pay more themselves, then this is the same thing as reducing their pay!!
Constance Blackwell
Posted: 24 June 2010 10:09:38(UTC)
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Joined: 18/06/2010(UTC)
Posts: 20

I would completely change the way higher education is funded.
1)Students should be thought of as people investing in themselves as business - the cost of education the cost of setting up a business
their loan from the government - or banks a business loan - should be repaid - but they should take the cost of the repayment off their taxes- like businesses take costs out of profits
2) The way being trained as a skilled workman - or woman should be rethought
there should be graded levels of skill - that could feed into management of that trade -
this could be done by taking a page out of what the city and guilds does - only do it on a larger scale -
Example of a life plan.
a)Young person trains as a carpenter - this training should include simple book keeping on a computer
b)step two - learning to design on a computer
c)step three should be able to upgrade into being a designer
d)or small business training to learn how to run a group of men and woman on a building site

All this training might cost some money - but that money should be taken off of tax -
The government is currently paying for what is building people's capital out of current expenses - - no business can run that way
The problem with the cost of education is the way it is financed - not that more people should have access to it.
The point is to make all members of society able to upgrade their skills - not cut this upgrading back.

I personally have helped essentially unskilled people working for me upgrade themselves - and move into the lower middle class - this should be encouraged in every way - as a result their own children now are aiming - for University - because their parents are socialised to take them to museums - read to them - and because their parents think of themselves in a different way -

This is good - not bad - this makes money for society - and makes for social stability

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Anonymous Post
Posted: 25 June 2010 08:59:21(UTC)
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Anonymous 3 needed this 'Off the Record'

All elderly dependants brought in the country by their sons and daughters have not contributed.
They shold pay yearly contribution, something akin to non-dom tax, to be eligible for free NHS.
They should not be entilted to benifits. Their should look after them.
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