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L.P.
Posted: 10 October 2024 12:39:58(UTC)

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Thanks Harry.

A breakdown would be good to see at your convenience.
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Harry

Has it been wise to be underweight equities bearing mind many good rises and clearly underrated sectors and areas.

Could there be a flaw in your method. I have been 100% equities based on reading my crystal ball.

Presume you can look at past performance and see where you were right and wrong…maybe something we can all learn by.

Also how do you choose your timing which as we know can make a difference between profit or loss.

Many thanksBB
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Harry Trout on 19/10/2024(UTC)
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Yes please Harry.

Thank you.
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Harry Trout on 11/10/2024(UTC)
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LP / Jay P

No problem, here are my top 30 holdings as at 30/09/24 (I consolidate monthly) together with line by line comparative holdings as at 31/12/23

Consolidated Portfolio Sep 24

Cash is up because as at 30/09/24 I hadn't yet allocated all of the proceeds of the 07/09/24 Gilt that matured. I've gone with a good slug of ERNS in October and some other ideas.

I'm continuing to increase the duration on non equities with things like CVCG / SMIF / NCYF (in the top 30 now) and several others below the top 30

I've made a conscious effort to increase yield which has risen from 2.7% at 31/12/23 to 3.4% now

I'm still pretty wedded to my 50% : 50% asset allocation due to the sequence of return issue, though this eases in my mind with every passing month.

Happy to answer any questions as ever, thanks for the interest

Cheers

Harry
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Big boy;321791 wrote:
Harry

Has it been wise to be underweight equities bearing mind many good rises and clearly underrated sectors and areas.

Could there be a flaw in your method. I have been 100% equities based on reading my crystal ball.

Presume you can look at past performance and see where you were right and wrong…maybe something we can all learn by.

Also how do you choose your timing which as we know can make a difference between profit or loss.

Many thanksBB


Thanks Big Boy

Apologies that it's taken me a few days to reply but I have wanted to take a good look into the point you make. I think you are right - there is indeed a flaw in my thinking.

What I've done is add LifeStrategy 100% to my benchmarking and it tells me that if I'd been all in with that one since January 2022 I would be much much better off now.

Even better off than LS80%

I'll add the LS100% numbers to my thread reporting (next update most likely in the New Year) so we can monitor it again then.

Good spot, thanks again

Harry
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Big boy on 19/10/2024(UTC)
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In case it needs saying, my previous post was a mickey take

Appreciate the "Thank" Big Boy

Copying this over from the thread "Underperformance" by way of part explanation for my posts this week

Harry Trout;322812 wrote:
ben ski;322787 wrote:
Rookie Investor;322781 wrote:
I bought Msft in 2016. Google in 2019. nvidia in 2016. Visa in 2018. Amazon in 2016. Why?

Chimp instincts.

People buy things that do well. That's why demand for those stocks rose. Apple was the best value and best business though – anyone who claimed to be stock picking and missed that...

So anyone can buy into rallies, and how long a rally lasts is unknown... But they've never lasted indefinitely. There'll be a rotation. And that's when we all decide yesterday's star managers never knew what they were doing in the first place – everyone gets shaken out. You don't know whether you should stick with your strategy, or rotate and cut losses. Indexes win over long periods because you're never in front of the curve, but you're never behind it.
100%

This is why I've moved out of individual stocks.

One of my best friends had a long career trading currency with Commerzbank. Made a proper fortune, retired at 49, could have retired years earlier but they kept him as a coach for the last few years. An exceptional mind, razor sharp.

He now trades in and out of Lloyds for a pastime, short term, days not weeks. Sometimes minutes.

During a car journey It took him a couple of minutes to decipher that my outperformance was down to luck not an edge. I've learned a lot about edge from him and we laugh about it now. I'm now down to a few stocks that I will sell at good moments.

It's why I'm so strong on Big Boy and Tony Peterson by the way. I don't see an edge there and both have declined my offer to evidence it here in a dedicated thread. Big flag.

Yes I could be nicer about it but they could be less hostile to reasonable questions. Another flag.

People with an edge are just built different, they communicate differently and I think I would recognise it a mile off if I saw it on this forum.

And people with a genuine edge wouldn't talk about it on a forum anyway, they are just not wired to do things that don't make them money. And few here listen anyway.

Hence why I agree with ben ski's low information vibe.

[ To be fair neither Big Boy or Tony Peterson are claiming an edge, or even claiming to beat the market. Which is bizarre really because they post as though they have a secret sauce. It could puff inexperienced members in. That was me years ago, happily I didn't lose any money. ]
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Big boy on 20/10/2024(UTC)
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Harry Trout

Don't worry about the Mickey Mouse comments as relised this years ago plus your guesswork and speculation which you keep repeating.

Perhaps truth and facts are better....maybe you should try it but maybe you know better....

Remember commentators (you) and journalist etc. are not good enough to be FMs ....
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Harry Trout on 22/10/2024(UTC)
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Good morning Big Boy

Thanks for your post

The initial premise of this thread was to share my progress actively picking individual stocks including sharing all my transactions month by month. I did ok but, long story short, realized that my success was pure luck.

The thread has now evolved and shares my journey managing the family investments and the methodology of the financial model that I have built. Together with an explanation of the asset allocation we have chosen and are comfortable with - for now.

Something that you say to posters like me who challenge your approach is “you appear to have all the answers” and you do it in your post above - “maybe you know better”. You say this all the time to others too.

I was going to get snarky as I have been known to do and say that I haven’t presented a “system” or made any claims of an edge. Not this time, I think that would not be entirely honest.

You see I do have a pitch for forum members, particular the less well oriented ones. I do believe that for the vast majority of investors, a simple passive strategy and some thought on asset allocation gets you ahead of most and will likely get you home too.

And I have “promoted” Buffett’s widow strategy. Whilst I’m not 90:10 today, health permitting we may get there one day.

Rob Berger says it far better than I ever could. For anyone with 20 minutes to spare, this is my all-time favourite investing video:

Warren Buffett Portfolio - 2 Index Funds To Rule Them All

I hope you will forgive me for sharing it one last time. To me its message is timeless and worthy of consideration at least.

And with that all being said I think this thread has run its course now.

Thank you to all who have shown their appreciation for the updates. I have really appreciated it.

Cheers

Harry
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Dear Harry

Many thanks for your contribution and no hard feelings I hope..

Stock Market investment is not easy and their is no right or wrong way..

My method was proven as a Professional but can never be replicated as a private investor for many reasons.

I did however discover many tricks of the trade and I have tried to share these with Members as clearly it's a struggle for many on here and I learned to keep it simple and different.

I do hope we can continue to share our thoughts without some of the stupidity that arises on here.

Take care BB
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Harry Trout on 22/10/2024(UTC)
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Big boy;323064 wrote:

Dear Harry

Many thanks for your contribution and no hard feelings I hope..

Stock Market investment is not easy and their is no right or wrong way..

My method was proven as a Professional but can never be replicated as a private investor for many reasons.

I did however discover many tricks of the trade and I have tried to share these with Members as clearly it's a struggle for many on here and I learned to keep it simple and different.

I do hope we can continue to share our thoughts without some of the stupidity that arises on here.
Take care BB


“My method was proven as a Professional but can never be replicated as a private investor for many reasons.

I did however discover many tricks of the trade and I have tried to share these with Members as clearly it's a struggle for many on here and I learned to keep it simple and different

I do hope we can continue to share our thoughts without some of the stupidity that arises on here.”


You’re last line is impossible when it is preceded with the above!
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