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avb
Posted: 24 September 2012 12:51:39(UTC)
#1

Joined: 18/11/2009(UTC)
Posts: 7

i have just read that stocks and shares isas benefit only people who pay 40% tax.
Can anyone explain to me why this is so.
Clive B
Posted: 24 September 2012 13:26:56(UTC)
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Joined: 25/11/2010(UTC)
Posts: 508

avb

Simply not true.

Let's say you were lucky enough to have £100K to invest. You did this and made £20K profit, then sold, taking all the profit in one tax year. If the investments aren't in an ISA, that £20K will attract Capital Gains Tax as it's above the CGT tax-free limit. However, the same profit in an ISA will be CGT free !.

Clive
P L
Posted: 24 September 2012 13:52:12(UTC)
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Joined: 10/08/2008(UTC)
Posts: 356

Actually if you take the CGT example then a stocks ISA wll have more of a benefit to a 40% tax payer given the CGT is charged at 28% not 18%. So a 20% tax payer investing the 100K outside an ISA would pay less than a 40% payer in total CGT. It is arguable whether benefiit is the right word since inside an ISA neither pay any tax so in that sense they are both equal as far as treatment is concerned. In pure money terms the 40% payer has saved more actual cash from the taxman but then it was his to start with.

Depending on which party you support you can either decribe this extra saving in terms that make it appear the government is giving away money, having taken it away from the poor / deserving or you are simply letting people keep what they've earned from their own hard work. No doubt there will be disagreement as to what hard work is and at what level of income it stops being hard.
bob naybour
Posted: 25 September 2012 10:33:01(UTC)
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Joined: 02/01/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1

Isa s are a protection for any capital gains and if a large percentage is in fixed interest with more tha 5 years the income tax is saved. Otherwise there is little benefit for a standard rate tax payer.
However there is one disadvantage which we for an older (married )couple on the death of one partner the ISA proceeds may have to to probate. It would be much simpler if investments were held in a joint account and no probate would be required.

Of course capital gains ( what are they) would not be obviously protected but judicious sales can prevent this being a factor
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