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Starting Savings Rate - How does it work
Raj K
Posted: 12 August 2022 17:26:39(UTC)
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Hi all

I have always been aware of the personal savings allowance that each of us get (£1000 interest tax free for basic rate tax payer and £500 tax free for higher rate tax payers) but i did not know about the additional £5000 starting savings rate of UP TO an extra £5000 tax free on interest income if one earn's below £17570.

The reason I am asking is that with the recent interest rate rises I am trying to sort out my mum and dads easy access cash accounts and I believe if i split them in a certain way (in favour of my mother who is on the lower income) then they will have to pay no tax (or very little) on the interest they earn.

My issue is this I am finding it a little difficult to interpet how its implimented so i will use my mum as the real life example to see if others agree or disagree with it.

So my mum earns £3500 a year from part time work, £7000 from her state pension, £1000 from dividends. She also gives my father a portion of her personal allowance via something called marriage allowance.

Am I correct in saying if you take my mums total earnings of £3500 + £7000 + £1260 marriage allowance which totals £11750 then she can earn a full £5000 plus £1000 in interest from savings without any further tax to pay on it. Am i also correct that the dividends dont have to be accounted for in this calculation and will not have any tax subjected on it as part of the £2000 dividend allowance we all get.

If on the other hand, for example if my mums earnings were lets say £6500 + £7000 pension and no marriage allowance given to my dad then she would only be able to benfit from £17570 - £6500 - £7000 = £4070 of that £5000 tax free interest allowance. She would however be eligible for that extra £1000 from the personal savings rate regardless..

Sorry if i have complicated things lol and i may have got the figures wrong for her state pension but the principle applies
Nigel G
Posted: 12 August 2022 22:45:38(UTC)
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That's pretty much how I understand it. The starting rate of £5000 is in addition to the personal savings allowance for those with earnings below the personal allowance. This effectively allows you to earn £18,570 from income and savings interest without paying any tax.

If your income is above your personal allowance then the starting rate is reduced accordingly. Once your non-savings taxable income reaches your personal allowance + £5000 then none of the starting rate is available, although the savings allowance remains.

The dividend allowance is separate and unaffected by the above.
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Raj K
Posted: 13 August 2022 10:00:16(UTC)
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Thanks Nigel

Now my main hurdle is to explain it to my old man so he understands what I’m doing. :)

Nigel G
Posted: 13 August 2022 12:42:41(UTC)
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I would add that it can be useful to consider the order in which the allowances are applied.

If, Raj, your mum's taxable dividend income were to rise above £2000 then, provided savings interest is fully covered by the SR/PSA, any unused portion of the personal allowance can be added to the dividend allowance.
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