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someyouwinsomeyoulose
Posted: 09 December 2022 13:55:13(UTC)
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someyouwinsomeyoulose;250127 wrote:
https://www.investegate.co.uk/gsk-plc--gsk-/rns/statement--zantac--ranitidine--litigation/202212070700028794I/

should be good news for the GSK share price the next few days.



Could i be more wrong?
Ian Eccles
Posted: 24 June 2023 08:54:57(UTC)
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Yesterday two directors bought shares after GSK settled the Californian court case, it looks like they are picking off individual cases . there must be some truth in the litigation or GSK would have let the case pan out in court.
Jonathan Symonds bought 6000 shares at 1440p cost £86387.40p
Julie Brown bought 22500 shares at 1429p cost £321554.25p
You have to change your life
Posted: 24 July 2023 10:54:35(UTC)
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Why don't more people just load up their SIPP with GSK and forget about it? Share price never goes anywhere and pays a comfortable 4% dividend. 4% drawdown without depleting the pension pot seems a reasonable minimum expectation.
Ian Eccles
Posted: 24 July 2023 11:59:54(UTC)
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You have to change your life;274102 wrote:
Why don't more people just load up their SIPP with GSK and forget about it? Share price never goes anywhere and pays a comfortable 4% dividend. 4% drawdown without depleting the pension pot seems a reasonable minimum expectation.


Probably because you shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket.
I hold GSK in my ISA for the dividend, like you point out, little growth of late.
Walmsley took control in April 2017 when the share price was hovering around £16/share and 80p dividend.
Since taking over she caved into Elliott Advisors demands and out popped Haleon..GSK were late to the party with their COVID vaccine and they were the specialist in that field of research.
Personally I think she is the wrong person for the job, until she goes it will stagnate, I should have invested my money into Astra Zeneca.
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MartynC on 24/07/2023(UTC)
Dan L
Posted: 24 July 2023 12:48:29(UTC)
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You have to change your life;274102 wrote:
Why don't more people just load up their SIPP with GSK and forget about it? Share price never goes anywhere and pays a comfortable 4% dividend. 4% drawdown without depleting the pension pot seems a reasonable minimum expectation.


I imagine most people would like some dividend growth over time, ideally in line with inflation over a longer time period. GSK have not grown their dividend or share price since 2013. It is a little more complex with the Haleon spin off but still, there is no point in getting the same dividend year after year without any sign of growth. 4% plus inflation might be more interesting.
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ANDREW FOSTER on 24/07/2023(UTC), Keith Cobby on 24/07/2023(UTC), Guest on 24/07/2023(UTC)
Keith Cobby
Posted: 24 July 2023 13:13:52(UTC)
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GSK, like so many other companies, is a bond proxy. As Dan says, you look back after ten years and see that neither your capital nor income has increased. Better to put it into a UK equity income trust (if you want to stay within the UK) or a global equity income trust like JGGI paying 4%.
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Raj K on 24/07/2023(UTC), Jimmy Page on 24/07/2023(UTC), You have to change your life on 24/07/2023(UTC)
You have to change your life
Posted: 24 July 2023 14:38:38(UTC)
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Yes, good points all. GSK would be a drastic option for a pension. Still, it could have merit as a yardstick for review against pension plans presented by the industry and in large still accepted by the customer; basically the dividend without the principal. *

* EDIT: But the dividends would not keep apace of inflation on future projections so not a good benchmark in reality.
what me worry?
Posted: 24 July 2023 16:09:53(UTC)
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Sold out of GSK having gone nowhere in the 9 years I held it. Hanging on to HALEON though........We will see.
Johan De Silva
Posted: 24 July 2023 16:18:54(UTC)
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You have to change your life;274124 wrote:

* EDIT: But the dividends would not keep apace of inflation on future projections so not a good benchmark in reality.

I believe only 18% is the pay out ratio and so loads of cash goes towards reducing net debt. If they paid everything out the dividend would be like 4 times the yeild! This is the advantage with bond proxies its not all about the divi.
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You have to change your life on 24/07/2023(UTC)
You have to change your life
Posted: 24 July 2023 16:55:40(UTC)
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Evidently GSK - like many of us - was sexy for a few short years back in the late '90's. I've held them for 15 years and they've always been stolid. Never thought of them as a bond proxy til Keith C put it in mind but it makes sense, I seldom think of them and then only as ballast in the portfolio.

The comparison that did occur to me is between GSK and a regular pension. I know caveats apply on the pensions side and they have been bound by regulation etc..Still, if a pension can't beat the GSK proposition I think its customers would be entitled to put some questions to the administrators. But I suppose most people of pensionable age don't yet think of their pensions as assets.
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