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NoMoreKickingCans
Posted: 27 March 2024 08:03:07(UTC)
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Baltimore bridge collapse is a huge economic threat...

https://twitter.com/robinmonotti...atus/1772893183313060088

Get it cleared, get it open.

(Did anyone else think it strange how in all those aerial shots there was hardly a rescue boat to be seen ?)
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ANDREW FOSTER
Posted: 27 March 2024 08:45:53(UTC)
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NoMoreKickingCans;300713 wrote:
Baltimore bridge collapse is a huge economic threat...

https://twitter.com/robinmonotti...atus/1772893183313060088

Get it cleared, get it open.

(Did anyone else think it strange how in all those aerial shots there was hardly a rescue boat to be seen ?)



Will take 3-4 years to build a bridge.

Re Rescue boats... there aren't flotillas of such things in every location. They may be tens or hundreds of miles away with crews. Cars under water the people are gonnas sorry, There is little urgency in reality.
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Lindisfarne on 27/03/2024(UTC)
NoMoreKickingCans
Posted: 27 March 2024 09:24:17(UTC)
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Annapolis Naval Base just down the coast. Might have thought they would have had a few navy seals to send up. (I still recall my wife’s eyes out on stalks when we went there 20 years ago and witnessed US testosterone doing chinups and drills). Agreed anyone will be dead now, but the way these things go re recovery of bodies etc and clearing wreckage and health and safety could take months to reopen the port. The bridge rebuild is a side show compared with getting the port open pronto.

Maybe should be taking another span down and dredging underneath urgently to provide a shipping passage around it.
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Nigel G
Posted: 27 March 2024 10:14:54(UTC)
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There were quite a number of police and rescue craft at the scene, but they were all very small. Any loss of life is tragic, but can you imagine the chaos if this had occurred at rush hour... it doesn't bear thinking about.

You're correct that this is a major disruption to the port. It's going to take some time before they bring in any large crane barges and clearing the debris will take months.
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Frank Spencer
Posted: 27 March 2024 10:18:03(UTC)
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What puzzles me is why the bridge supports did not have adequate buffers surrounding them to prevent just such an incident........bet the next one does!
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NoMoreKickingCans on 27/03/2024(UTC)
NoMoreKickingCans
Posted: 27 March 2024 10:38:16(UTC)
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Frank Spencer;300736 wrote:
What puzzles me is why the bridge supports did not have adequate buffers surrounding them to prevent just such an incident........bet the next one does!

Kinda looked like it was built on the cheap. Think a completely new design is needed. Time for something iconic and that can accommodate today’s huge shipping. Will take many years. They may even need to build 2 - a quick & dirty temporary one for traffic - and a new iconic one. Wasn’t Elon Musk wanting to tunnel new roads in the US ?
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Lindisfarne
Posted: 27 March 2024 12:28:45(UTC)
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Frank Spencer;300736 wrote:
What puzzles me is why the bridge supports did not have adequate buffers surrounding them to prevent just such an incident........bet the next one does!


I read that it was built before such large container ships were using the Port, so it was thought to be ok for the shipping then.
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SF100
Posted: 28 March 2024 08:40:18(UTC)
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ANDREW FOSTER;300718 wrote:
Will take 3-4 years to build a bridge.
best they take their time & make it a tad stronger than the last one
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SF100
Posted: 28 March 2024 08:48:30(UTC)
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NoMoreKickingCans;300740 wrote:
Frank Spencer;300736 wrote:
What puzzles me is why the bridge supports did not have adequate buffers surrounding them to prevent just such an incident........bet the next one does!

Kinda looked like it was built on the cheap.

Many US bridges do.
Functional & efficient rather than aesthetically pleasing.
NoMoreKickingCans;300740 wrote:

Think a completely new design is needed. Time for something iconic and that can accommodate today’s huge shipping.
Iconic costs money, that could probably be better spent elsewhere. That wouldn't really help with the debt clock.
And with all this WFH & envronmental prioritisation, why replace it at all..... :)
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Captain Slugwash
Posted: 28 March 2024 15:40:18(UTC)
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Only the 10th biggest container port in the USA.
the LNG terminal is to seaward, so not affected.
Will it affect Baltimore? Yes.
Global trade? not much.
Media hype.
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