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TESCO - HOLD or SELL
Grez
Posted: 11 May 2024 09:28:37(UTC)
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The retail price range of available goods between Tesco and Aldi/Lidl has just about closed, but Tesco now scores on the vastly larger selection of goods on offer.
Comparing a supermarket with a fast food restaurant in terms of inflationary influences gives a very limited correlation of fundamentals.
The attractiveness of a business also depends on investment imperatives, so if in the interest of balance you are seeking exposure to grocery retailing UK, Tesco seems like a sound choice.
I'm a LTI and have added from time to time, stopping for the time being at around 282. With the current price north of 310, I'm intending to hold and see how the next few months fare. A BBQ summer would be helpful..
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John Bran on 13/05/2024(UTC)
Wave Action
Posted: 11 May 2024 10:38:18(UTC)
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For data the link below is decent.

https://uk.marketscreene...tock/TESCO-PLC-4000540/

Earnings are forecast 26p for year 2026 so P/E of 12. Fair and around the TSCO historical value.

https://uk.marketscreene...O-PLC-4000540/finances/

Revenue, earnings and dividends all going up in the right direction.

https://markets.investor...et/forecasts?s=TSCO:LSE

Why the article earlier in the thread compares TSCO with Walmart I'm not sure ? I'd rather compare it with a UK retailer such as SBRY. Walmart maybe trading on a P/E of 24 but that's unrealistic for TSCO . It's been there before and slumped as growth didn't happen. SBRY is trading on a forward P/E of 11 for 2026 so similar to TSCO.

https://tradingeconomics.com/tsco:ln:pe

https://markets.investor...et/forecasts?s=SBRY:LSE

2 year chart comparing TSCO and SBRY not much in it ?

https://bigcharts.market...ggle=false&state=15



What to do ? FTSE is having a good run and most shares are going along with it. All share prices are part fundamentals and the rest general market sentiment. The price could go anywhere even if the fundamentals were reasonable. Markets tend to drift during the summer anyway and it's election year both here and the US. If it's the only share you have I'd be tempted to sell and split the proceeds say 7k and buy 5 new FTSE stocks. There's always opportunities .
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William P on 13/05/2024(UTC)
Colin Boylett
Posted: 12 May 2024 10:21:37(UTC)
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William P;305259 wrote:
I bought 10,000 Tesco shares on 12 July 2021 for a total cost including fees etc of £23,526, so a cost of £2.35 per share.

I clicked the button for automatic dividend reinvestment.

I noticed the shares are at a 52 week high and indeed a multi year high looking at a chart going back 5 years.

My holding with dividend reinvested is now worth £34,326, a 46% increase from purchase cost, so quite alright.

I am thinking of selling, but part of me thinks I should hold on for a little bit more!

Holding on for more in the past in other stocks has at times proved not to work out for me.

Do any of you hold Tesco and are you minded to sell or hold?

Many thanks


I hold Tesco and will continue to hold.The yield is pretty good although I always take dividends. You could always sell some of the holding and retain the rest. I can’t see any justification for selling now and a well-balanced portfolio would like include Tesco shares.
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William P on 13/05/2024(UTC)
Johan De Silva
Posted: 12 May 2024 12:24:34(UTC)
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Big boy;305370 wrote:
Raj K;305341 wrote:
Big boy;305339 wrote:
Johan De Silva;305286 wrote:
Big boy;305275 wrote:
Remember to-days SP is a correct valuation by all the Global Investors.

Yes but lets test this. I've mentioned Action in the PE thread and news that the lower earning consumer is struggling and that companies are less able to pass inflation onto these consumers. This is new news out this weeks earnings of companies like McDonalds. . Based on this I don't think Tesco is worth a P/E of 12 and better off with M&S on a P/E of 14. You could argue the P/E reflects this already...doh!


Clearly we have seen net buying but once all the FMs have finished buying what happens to the inflated share price. It’s no good having the best Company in the World but at the wrong price. Also who buys when 99% of investors hold.

It’s doesn't matter about interest rates or fundamentals.



if you were interested in buying the local fish and chip business how would you work out what a good price is to pay for it. Somewhere at a very basic level you will need to look at how much cash the thing produces and is it likely to continue. Why is it ok to ignore fundamentals of a business because it is listed and has a daily price?

i get your IT thing using the NAV as the reference marker for value but how do you do that with an individual stock if you ignore the fundamentals entirely ? No book value, no free cash flow?



I simply let the Global investors work out the correct price for the fish and chip shop. They will identify the best but will overpay.
Remember FMs will go into great detail and understanding the F&C shops and then decide the correct SP.

We all appreciate that most FMs have difficulty in adding value compared with other FMs and not sure any PI will be able to add any value.





Suppose he would only buy if the seller of fish and chips is destressed seller in a poor market.

The world knows the way to get rich is to own assets and that's what anyone with means will do. The way to get richer is to buy assets lower. It seems odd here but private equity have done it for years.

More recently everyone is buying growing earnings i.e. "quality earnings".

Ideally we want both and that is near impossible unless we go down the cap size imho.

The world is not quite right really. Those with the means will thrive...but that's a separate topic and one that won't ever change.

Back to TESCO...it currently earns not much more than cash so needs rate cuts or growth. It is certainly no Action/3i Group. Most UK stocks like TESCO lack growth so the only way to outperform is be like BB or private equity or at index level buy when historically low.
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MartynC on 13/05/2024(UTC)
John Bran
Posted: 13 May 2024 13:06:21(UTC)
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Big boy;305275 wrote:
William P;305259 wrote:
I bought 10,000 Tesco shares on 12 July 2021 for a total cost including fees etc of £23,526, so a cost of £2.35 per share.

I clicked the button for automatic dividend reinvestment.

I noticed the shares are at a 52 week high and indeed a multi year high looking at a chart going back 5 years.

My holding with dividend reinvested is now worth £34,326, a 46% increase from purchase cost, so quite alright.

I am thinking of selling, but part of me thinks I should hold on for a little bit more!

Holding on for more in the past in other stocks has at times proved not to work out for me.

Do any of you hold Tesco and are you minded to sell or hold?

Many thanks


Presume you bought them on the bases that they were cheap/undervalued. Using same method how do you rate them.

Remember to-days SP is a correct valuation by all the Global Investors.

I personally do not deal in direct equities as I regard it as gambling/speculating.

So why are you on this part of the forum?
Oh I remember so you can talk down to posters by calling them gamblers/speculators.
I will be calling you pp in future...pretentious pr*ck
John Bran
Posted: 13 May 2024 13:20:22(UTC)
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Must admit Tesco is doing well and I expect it to continue to take a bit more share of the market but I doubt a significant amount. People are not always prepared to travel to save money or get a particularl brand.
I always use it for deliveries about every 8 weeks. Rest of the time the nearest.
In reference to taking market share if the coop can continue to exist then I would doubt that Tesco can increase its market share significantly.
If you like supermarkets buy SUPR every buy order will help increase my share value crease!!!
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William P on 13/05/2024(UTC)
Anthony French
Posted: 13 May 2024 13:27:01(UTC)
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John Bran;305720 wrote:
Big boy;305275 wrote:
William P;305259 wrote:
I bought 10,000 Tesco shares on 12 July 2021 for a total cost including fees etc of £23,526, so a cost of £2.35 per share.

I clicked the button for automatic dividend reinvestment.

I noticed the shares are at a 52 week high and indeed a multi year high looking at a chart going back 5 years.

My holding with dividend reinvested is now worth £34,326, a 46% increase from purchase cost, so quite alright.

I am thinking of selling, but part of me thinks I should hold on for a little bit more!

Holding on for more in the past in other stocks has at times proved not to work out for me.

Do any of you hold Tesco and are you minded to sell or hold?

Many thanks


Presume you bought them on the bases that they were cheap/undervalued. Using same method how do you rate them.

Remember to-days SP is a correct valuation by all the Global Investors.

I personally do not deal in direct equities as I regard it as gambling/speculating.

So why are you on this part of the forum?
Oh I remember so you can talk down to posters by calling them gamblers/speculators.
I will be calling you pp in future...pretentious pr*ck



you seem very troubled about other posters ? it's worth remembering it takes two opposing views to form a market.

Anthony French
Posted: 13 May 2024 13:31:59(UTC)
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Unless u hold gilts to maturity or your cash is a deposit account u are a speculator and gambler.
The amount of risk u are prepared to risk is how much of a speculator, gambler u are.

Someone will always be getting richer faster than you. This is not a tragedy.
C. Munger
John Bran
Posted: 13 May 2024 13:32:03(UTC)
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Anthony French;305725 wrote:
John Bran;305720 wrote:
Big boy;305275 wrote:
William P;305259 wrote:
I bought 10,000 Tesco shares on 12 July 2021 for a total cost including fees etc of £23,526, so a cost of £2.35 per share.

I clicked the button for automatic dividend reinvestment.

I noticed the shares are at a 52 week high and indeed a multi year high looking at a chart going back 5 years.

My holding with dividend reinvested is now worth £34,326, a 46% increase from purchase cost, so quite alright.

I am thinking of selling, but part of me thinks I should hold on for a little bit more!

Holding on for more in the past in other stocks has at times proved not to work out for me.

Do any of you hold Tesco and are you minded to sell or hold?

Many thanks


Presume you bought them on the bases that they were cheap/undervalued. Using same method how do you rate them.

Remember to-days SP is a correct valuation by all the Global Investors.

I personally do not deal in direct equities as I regard it as gambling/speculating.

So why are you on this part of the forum?
Oh I remember so you can talk down to posters by calling them gamblers/speculators.
I will be calling you pp in future...pretentious pr*ck



you seem very troubled about other posters ? it's worth remembering it takes two opposing views to form a market.


Seriously? You of all people!

"CITYWIRE PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE POSTER ANTHONY FRENCH"
Anthony French
Posted: 13 May 2024 13:34:22(UTC)
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Envy is a really stupid sin because it's the only one you could never possibly have any fun at.
There's a lot of pain and no fun. Why would you want to get on that trolley?

C. Munger
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