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Robin B
Posted: 12 February 2025 18:25:10(UTC)
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The KidKad;334125 wrote:
But there are well established communities already here now so let's figure out how we all get along.


Maybe we could begin with your lack of self awareness and honesty?

But I agree, there are communities that are well enough established. By which I mean, have been here for some decades, and do not engage in excessively aggressive or disrespectful behaviour. Try to fit in and get on in life without irritating others.

They don't demand laws that involve criminalising other people for having opinions; accuse others of having a made up phobia all about them; advocate taking away the long established rights of others to free speech, to accommodate thin-skinned nutters; and don't commit terrorist outrages or engage in other forms of scandalous and deeply disgusting behaviour towards the children of other communities.

And thinking about these groups, it seems that another thing they have in common is to be at the receiving end of aggression from a common denominator, which seems to be a recurring theme beyond these shores as well.

So yes, getting along is a good idea... if people get along.

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stephen_s
Posted: 12 February 2025 18:32:04(UTC)
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[quote=Johan De Silva;334137]
"Wow, do you speak for those servicemen?"

Never said I did, try reading

"I am not sure my great grandfather and his brothers would agree."

And yet 1960's polls showed approx. 74% of the population were against mass-immigration

"Both you and Rainbow Robin appear to be grabbing at whatever news you can get to promote your own ideology."

As above, these were the *mainstream* views of the English population on mass-immigration and not an ideology, like being 'woke'.
Robin B
Posted: 12 February 2025 19:20:47(UTC)
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Zach F;334133 wrote:

Oh do fuck off. You opened with some waffle about Islam being the only faith anyone’s scared of. You just going to ignore the Catholic Churches lauded history as nonces? The silence speaks volumes.

Honestly I’ve never met such a bunch of sad, scared little men in all my life ( thankfully cus most of you couldn’t survive a slap) . Kiddkad,I’m sure I don’t need to say this but these racist cretins do not represent the people of the UK, I really would save your time. No educating some people.


I can think of numerous groups who would have every right to be afraid - and not irrationally - of Islam. Certain forms of it anyway, along with the theopolitical doctrine of Islamism. Females for a start, and gays, and people who are sceptical about islamism and wish to say so... Would you not agree?

How about the teacher who is in hiding for questioning this religion, bearing in mind what has happened to teachers on the continent who dared to do the same? People who have been the victims of islamist terrorism or who have managed to escape harsh, theocratic regimes like the ones in Afghanistan and Iran - which they claim to be seeking refuge from? People whose family members have been hacked to pieces in this country and in the rest of Europe by people screaming a certain two word expression?

Are you able to provide examples of similar associations for other religious groups in Europe in recent years?

And your comment about the Catholic Church is absurd. Paedos were attracted to it, not the other way round. They are everywhere unfortunately. And their victims were members of the Catholic Church. But more to the point, why would anybody have randomly mentioned that in this discussion so far? Why do you expect that to have happened? Where is the link?

It hardly lends kipkad any credibility for a screaming, left wing idiot to come along and defend him. Or for a nutty old fool like Newbie to keep thanking him for his low calibre posts. It just seems to reflect the rather dubious alliance we see playing out in our national life, which is also dishonest, extremely cynical, and frankly quite odd.
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Laurence O'Brien
Posted: 12 February 2025 19:46:42(UTC)
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Zach F;334133 wrote:
Laurence O'Brien;334034 wrote:
The KidKad;334007 wrote:
Laurence O'Brien;333673 wrote:
There is only one religious group that people fear in the UK and it isn’t Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs or Buddhists. Fear in the sense of a phobia, a word derived from the Greek φοβάμαι - to fear. It’s not hatred in the sense that some would have us believe but a genuine fear of a group of people who plant bombs or murder people in the streets or lay siege to the home of a teacher falsely accused of damaging a book. Why would any sane person not be afraid of people who carry out these atrocities?

Moderate Muslims really need to stand up and denounce those who are committing these acts whilst shouting Allahu Akbar but we don’t hear them and as I asked above, is it because they are afraid of them or do they tacitly support them?

The other big issue for me is the refusal of large sections of the Muslim population to integrate with the indigenous people of the country. They are the only religious group amongst those mentioned above who do not. Go to Bradford (the city of my birth and childhood) and you will see exactly what I mean. A city where I was threatened by a group of Pakistani youths for accidentally venturing into part of the city which they claimed to be theirs.


I will say it again - your framing is fundamentally prejudiced. I and other Muslims have no obligation to denounce crimes by other people who happen to be share elements of background/ heritage. You would not expect that of other communities.


I bloody well would. If crimes were being committed in the name of my god, I would most definitely denounce the perpetrators. The silence speaks volumes.



Oh do fuck off. You opened with some waffle about Islam being the only faith anyone’s scared of. You just going to ignore the Catholic Churches lauded history as nonces? The silence speaks volumes.


Honestly I’ve never met such a bunch of sad, scared little men in all my life ( thankfully cus most of you couldn’t survive a slap) . Kiddkad,I’m sure I don’t need to say this but these racist cretins do not represent the people of the UK, I really would save your time. No educating some people.


What Robin B said above. And for about the 500th time, Islam is not a race.
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Newbie
Posted: 12 February 2025 20:07:04(UTC)
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Robin B;334146 wrote:

..... who have managed to escape harsh, theocratic regimes like the ones in Afghanistan and Iran - which they claim to be seeking refuge from?

Just out of curiosity are they the same ones who are taking over Britain or England and destroying British values.

Robin B;334146 wrote:
.....comment about the Catholic Church is absurd. Paedos were attracted to it, not the other way round. They are everywhere unfortunately. And their victims were members of the Catholic Church

So Paedos get a pass because they are white not because they are Christian but not the similar nutcase Muslim because of the fact that they are a Muslim
andy mac
Posted: 13 February 2025 07:17:49(UTC)
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@stephen S

During WW! Irish soldiers were in th British army
WW2 N Irish were in the British army as were some from the Republic

If you check the highest percentage of injured or killed were Scots

I take it you wear the St Georges cross flag when you go on your protest marches

Are you proud to be British or just English
There is a saying that Scotland will be alright when England gets home rule

Just sayin
Robin B
Posted: 13 February 2025 09:12:19(UTC)
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I think Stephen just understands his history better than others and the response to his post is over the top.

There isn't any such thing as a British nation in reality. Britain is a union between different nations. That is the constitutional arrangement and the history of it. There is a lot of soft propaganda going on in the background; people are discouraged from thinking about or understanding their history and identity, particularly if they are natives of these Isles and especially if they are English. So ignorance is to be expected.

Those of us who are "British" - the English, Scots, Welsh, Irish - understand that whilst we have things in common and have been together for a long time, and have a shared history, that we are also different to one another. It runs deep. The history of Ulster shows this, and the long history of conflict between England and Scotland before the Union. The fact that there are devolved administrations, although England doesn't get to have one for reasons that might be discussed separately (modern politics and dishonesty being key ingredients).

There is kinship and there is animosity at the same time, amongst people who look very similar, are (more or less) fluent in the same language and customs, have lived together for thousands of years. And we are of course discussing only nationality here, not ethnicity, which is a whole interesting topic in itself.

I personally do not describe myself as British. I am English. I am not Irish, Scottish or Welsh, although I have plenty in common with them, relatively speaking, including genetically. I only use the word British when it is relevant to discuss our common history. E.g. we might talk about the British economy or the British role in WW1. I do of course hold a British passport and am a British citizen, but the word British is as much a convenient, administrative catch-all as it is a meaningfully real thing. It is a form of branding - a way to present the different peoples and nations abroad as one thing. I think those of us who are of these lands know this instinctively.

It becomes an increasingly meaningless term, whereas the words used for the constituent nationalities retain their value and force. The word British is like paper money that isn't backed by gold, or anything else; debased more and more by the effects of inflation.

So when you hear a person who has recently immigrated from a very different region and culture, or exists in a separate culture here as a result of that process, describing themselves as "British", you can see how it also forms a useful function there as a more nebulous construct to absorb and disguise very different peoples, cultures and identities. Then on to that vague branding exercise they will often hyphenate it with something else entirely. Pakistani British, British Muslim, or whatever. Sometimes different combinations are used by the one person, almost in a chameoleon fashion, like disguises, to suit the situation. But curiously never English, even when they were born and grew up here.

Ultimately, you will find out what a person really is when you get to know them and see which ideas, customs, history, people, places and things they really care about. That will reveal their true identity, underneath all the mumbo jumbo. As we know from other contemporary sillines and lies, like the 73 genders, there is always a common sense, factual truth once we see past the smoke and mirrors.

Worth mentioning that some people, particularly those who have been governing us, don't care about anything very much, apart from power and money, thinly disguised by intellectual nonsense. The globalists... who are a strange, parasitic cult unto themselves and "above" such considerations as those I have discussed.
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Wheresthejam .
Posted: 13 February 2025 09:51:44(UTC)
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There's an awful lot of rubbish that is posted here.

How do I short this thread?
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Zach F on 16/02/2025(UTC)
stephen_s
Posted: 13 February 2025 11:35:56(UTC)
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andy mac;334186 wrote:
@stephen S

During WW! Irish soldiers were in th British army
WW2 N Irish were in the British army as were some from the Republic

If you check the highest percentage of injured or killed were Scots

I take it you wear the St Georges cross flag when you go on your protest marches

Are you proud to be British or just English
There is a saying that Scotland will be alright when England gets home rule

Just sayin


What specific part of this (my) sentence do you struggle with, is there anything inaccurate in the sentence?

"Irish no, and they were 'neutral' in WW2 so not involved."

(in part reply to your question: "Did the Irish Welsh and Scots have anything to do withe the United Kingdom")

Irish neutrality during World War II

Quote:
The policy of neutrality was adopted by Ireland's Oireachtas at the instigation of the Taoiseach Éamon de Valera upon the outbreak of World War II in Europe. It was maintained throughout the conflict, in spite of several German air raids by aircraft that missed their intended British targets, and attacks on Ireland's shipping fleet by Allies and Axis alike.


Plenty of British went to fight in Spain in the 'Spanish civil war' but we were not officially involved, as a nation, so did not take great loses. Same with Ireland in WW2.

'Northern Ireland' was not mentioned in your original question, so not included in my answer, obviously.

My attendance at any protest march is just a delusion of yours, not any reality.

Just correctin
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Robin B on 13/02/2025(UTC)
stephen_s
Posted: 13 February 2025 11:44:58(UTC)
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Wheresthejam .;334196 wrote:
There's an awful lot of rubbish that is posted here.

How do I short this thread?


By not reading it, others are available. :)
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