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Youth unemployment - causes and cures
Jeremy Bosk
Posted: 17 August 2013 14:16:18(UTC)
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Joined: 09/06/2010(UTC)
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Greece, Spain and a few other European peripheral countries have much higher youth unemployment than the UK.

The Netherlands, Austria and Germany have much lower youth unemployment than the UK.

European Youth Unemployment

Why?

I suggest that education and training systems, political ideology, and the structure of industries in the various economies are most important.

Readers comments are requested, with a particular emphasis, if you please, on what changes might be made in the UK.
Daniel L
Posted: 19 August 2013 20:41:24(UTC)
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Joined: 12/08/2013(UTC)
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I'd agree with more training courses to help get the youth on the right track rather than having them rely on the dole and other aid programs. It would be great to require them all to go to college, but this isn't exactly realistic. It should also be made harder to get on the dole...there should be more proof that they are trying and perhaps weekly meeting to help improve their job seeking skills.
Jeremy Bosk
Posted: 19 August 2013 22:00:30(UTC)
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The Local Authorities Association have just said that there are 35 different youth training programmes available. They overlap and they need to be simplified and improved. Worse, they do not result in permanent jobs.

So, education and training of a much higher quality is a long term part of the answer but getting the economy going again has to be the immediate priority. IMHO.

Why do Germany, Austria and The Netherlands have so much lower youth unemployment? The evidence seems to show that the UK has messed up for decades. Perhaps we should outsource education, training and economic management?

Rob Walker
Posted: 20 August 2013 07:13:55(UTC)
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Joined: 31/03/2009(UTC)
Posts: 36

The focus on University Degree success has had two detrimental impacts on employment:
a) There seems to be less enthusiasm amongst academically successful people to undertake jobs outside their chosen area of specialisation. Universities have tended to introduce new degree courses that are 'popular' rather than useful leading to large numbers of degrees in such areas as Media Studies, Psychology, Social Sciences and some more esoteric such as 'Surf Science'. Hence opportunities available in the real world are vastly oversubscribed.
b) The lack of a degree (with such a high proportion of people leaving education with one) has become a significant obstacle to a successful career. Once you could train to be a solicitor, accountant, telecommunications engineer or surveyor with only five 'o' levels, now a degree is the required entry point. Even careers where non-academic skills are vital such as nursing are trying to introduce degrees as a prerequisite to qualification.
The cure?
We need to de-stigmatise (is that a word?) those who leave schools with intermediate qualifications. Develop the apprentice system, not as second-best to a degree but as an equal opportunity to top jobs. Our schools need less focus on academic excellence and more on practical education and training. Trade skills should be incorporated into the school curriculum and other skills relevant to the world we live in (I read recently that only 4% of those teaching technology had qualified as a programmer). We know that University degrees are not essential, ask Alan Sugar, Richard Branson and a host of other successful businessman, so why does our country's future have to be held to ransom by a self-perpetuating system that allows universities to promote the exclusive benefits of success through a University Degree?
john brace
Posted: 20 August 2013 08:14:00(UTC)
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Joined: 03/02/2012(UTC)
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Rob has hit the nail on the head - in my youth [many years ago] in the Midlands, every school leaver who didn't go on to university - which was most - found a good job somewhere. It was often in a factory. nobody complained and everyone earned good money. My father was a tool-setter.
Where have all these jobs gone? We have sold off abroad any decent companies and the manufacturing soon follows. Thanks to Tony Blair everyone wanted to be a 'posh' kid. Lesser jobs have to filled by immigrant labour.
It's time for some protectionism for these jobs - after all the rest of the EU is doing this openly.
I have a smart, polite grandson aged 17, who is dyslexic and will probably never find work. I have a son-in-law who was self-employed in IT for many years, and now cannot find any sort of job, even shelf filling.
This 'underclass' of workers have no hope and yet could often be good workers given the chance.
It's good to see some sort of apprenticeship programmes starting, but I still don't see the jobs.
Jeremy Bosk
Posted: 20 August 2013 10:45:07(UTC)
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Accountants and solicitors amongst others now offer modern apprenticeships to A-level school leavers. These lead to technician qualifications and can lead to full professional training. Firms like BAE also offer a route to the top through apprenticeships. The main reason for the lack of apprenticeships generally is the decline in the manufacturing workforce (by over three quarters) while physical production has actually increased. Which means that the remaining workforce needs to be even better educated and trained.

Skilled workers are expensive and so the first targets to be replaced by ever more complex computer controlled machines. Which need service technicians but not much in the way of human operators.

Immigration is a red herring because once the immigrants get jobs they begin to provide jobs for other people as they spend their wages. Population growth is behind a great deal of traditional economic expansion. Indeed it is one of the reasons that the UK economy has done less badly than most others in the OECD in this recession.

Branson and Sugar are salesmen. If they had ever done technical jobs, they would have needed education and training. Intelligence and chutzpah will get you only so far.
Tom Mozy
Posted: 20 August 2013 11:59:24(UTC)
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Joined: 09/07/2013(UTC)
Posts: 424

Simple - 3 reasons

1.) Education in the eurozone is governmental - government monopolies on education. Monopolies produce poor standards.

2.) "Employment rights" - employers do everything they can to avoid employing people. Health and Saftey, Benefits, hard to sack, guarenteed hours of work etc etc, the list goes on and on the amount of legislation Brussels has put on employers. Not to mention the tax rate....

3.) Much of the eurozone is subject to socialist minimum wage laws.

Firstly we give our youth a crap education from the state, next we make it hard for potential employers to hire them, then we give them a wage hurdle which we expect thier productivity to be higher than.

The cure - Capitalism. The problem - Socialism.
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