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Cm258
Posted: 05 March 2025 11:40:09(UTC)
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smg8;336570 wrote:
Cm258;336563 wrote:
What about staying passive, but tilting to one of the risk premiums?

For example, value, which you could look at something like UBS FTSE RAFI Developed 1000 Index Fund C Accumulation.

If you check out historic performance, US underweight, tech underweight etc. does this tick any boxes for you?


Thanks Cm258.

Staying passive is appealing, if I find the right thing.

The one you've suggested though - I think I'd end up 2nd guessing myself. It's a bit of a factor bet which I tend to avoid.

I also look at what it did in 2020 and I ask myself in all honesty would I have held this fund when it returned 0% in a year where other stuff I held returned 100% and just have to hold my hands up and say I'd have probably done something stupid there (selling low). This may make me a dumb retail investor, but I like the fact I know this in advance so I can avoid the pitfall.

A bet on small caps with a 20+ year timeframe is something I may be able to get comfortable with, so Vanguard Gbl Small Cap Index could be an option to park some SIPP money which keeps me passive but at least is putting money into something different to what I've already got.




There's always the option of a multi-factor ETF, giving you exposure to value, small caps, momentum and low volatility. All bases covered that way.

I'm 36, so 22 years until pension access age. My SIPP has 12% small cap and 12% value exposure, the rest of the equities balance is in a single market cap weighted tracker. If the risk premiums do come to fruitation, I've got some exposure. And worst case, I've tilted away from the heavy US/Mag7 exposure, which I feel good doing.
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Raj K
Posted: 05 March 2025 12:07:13(UTC)
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Latitude OCF is 1.16% for the class available on retail platforms.
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Robert D
Posted: 05 March 2025 12:27:07(UTC)
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smg8;336551 wrote:
With the new ISA and pension year nearly upon us, I’ve been reviewing global funds.
Would love to hear if anyone else is thinking the same - or has found something that still makes sense.



Aviva Investors Global Equity Income Fund is an option - 46% in the US but only one Mag7 stock, Microsoft, and good performance over the years. Charge of about 1.1% is high though
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smg8
Posted: 05 March 2025 13:06:49(UTC)
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NPH;336573 wrote:
If wanting to 1) reduce risk 2) lean towards income and 3) consider managed, how about Black Rock My Map 4 Select Income (not the same as the regular My Map 4)?
Short-ish track record but am considering as medium term hold as it actively manages the allocations.


Thanks for this, I've been looking at the actively managed multi assets with underlying passives, and like the idea of one. Something you can chuck £100k into and not need to look for 10 years. The fact several have performed similarly and have similar weightings to UK/US/Emerging Markets etc suggests that the strategic asset allocation these pros use is landing them in roughly the same place which perhaps offers some confidence that they aren't going to do anything dumb with my money. I had ruled My Map out before due to Blackrock's ESG obsession and all the underlying passives being ESG tilts/ESG enhanced etc. But will revisit in case this has changed!
smg8
Posted: 05 March 2025 13:18:39(UTC)
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Raj K;336581 wrote:
Latitude OCF is 1.16% for the class available on retail platforms.


I'm including transaction fees, hence the 1.27%. It's also the principal - I emailed them when the fund was new and they assured my they'd reduced the fee as it gets up to scale. It's over 4 x the size of when I first looked at it and no change to the fee!

Mr Spock;336574 wrote:
Ranmore Global Equity has been floating in this forum for a while. It did well in 2022 (for some reasons I have not investigated). It is not cheap, but it is different. AJ Bell has an Institutional class at 1%. It is also on HL at 1%, after 0.13 discount. I am personally pondering on this one for reasons similar to yours.

Re Vanguard Gl Sm Cap, it is the eternal promise. I have a small holding since COVID, and, except shortly after the US elections, perf has been disappointing. If you have zero exposure to small caps and you want a cheap solution, it may be an option. However I'd like to think that in this space a good active should do better. Good names are CT and Invesco.

Good luck!

MS


So Ranmore sits atop the performance table - I think I'd be guilty of performance chasing here to be honest! Anything that has massively outperformed of late isn't really of appeal. No one was suggesting it when it was 99th percentile in 2020 and now there are articles online with fund pickers saying it's a must buy etc. It's a massive factor bet which has been a superb bet to make - until now. But it comes back to my earlier point - most are just a bet on value, growth or quality. How long is that a winning bet for - honestly who knows, and if it becomes a losing bet I suspect it could tank quite hard given how well it has performed of late. Another in the not for me category sadly, it just doesn't feel like a buy and forget.

I hear you on the small caps for sure - when will they come good, perhaps they won't. Flip side is you may get say 8% annualised return over 10-20 years, without reliance on large cap growth, and without giving it any thought whatsoever and with absolute minimal costs. Perhaps that too is a bet to some extent, but it feels a less concentrated one than picking a specific active fund to me.

Tom 123
Posted: 05 March 2025 13:27:02(UTC)
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I thought the consensus on here was that the global all cap is all one needs, it will rebalance itself?
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smg8
Posted: 05 March 2025 13:27:19(UTC)
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Cm258;336578 wrote:



There's always the option of a multi-factor ETF, giving you exposure to value, small caps, momentum and low volatility. All bases covered that way.

I'm 36, so 22 years until pension access age. My SIPP has 12% small cap and 12% value exposure, the rest of the equities balance is in a single market cap weighted tracker. If the risk premiums do come to fruitation, I've got some exposure. And worst case, I've tilted away from the heavy US/Mag7 exposure, which I feel good doing.


I did look at HWWD, but weirdly the multi factor process has led them to a top 10 which looks oddly familiar;



Probably not quite what I expected!

The small caps seem a logical addition worth considering further. I am 39 (just) so also have a long timeframe in the SIPP. Currently it's 67% global trackers, 33% in 2 x active funds.
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Aminatidi
Posted: 05 March 2025 14:08:24(UTC)
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smg8;336589 wrote:
NPH;336573 wrote:
If wanting to 1) reduce risk 2) lean towards income and 3) consider managed, how about Black Rock My Map 4 Select Income (not the same as the regular My Map 4)?
Short-ish track record but am considering as medium term hold as it actively manages the allocations.


Thanks for this, I've been looking at the actively managed multi assets with underlying passives, and like the idea of one. Something you can chuck £100k into and not need to look for 10 years. The fact several have performed similarly and have similar weightings to UK/US/Emerging Markets etc suggests that the strategic asset allocation these pros use is landing them in roughly the same place which perhaps offers some confidence that they aren't going to do anything dumb with my money. I had ruled My Map out before due to Blackrock's ESG obsession and all the underlying passives being ESG tilts/ESG enhanced etc. But will revisit in case this has changed!


That's the single sentence that stands out for me the most on this thread and I can relate.

I know this is "only" a five percent or so dip (so far) but it's been bloody liberating to be able to sit back not being concerned whether I've backed the right fund manager 👍🏼

Genuine question - what's so magical about the £600K mark that you're debating going more active?

i.e. why not £500K or why not £700K etc.

Devils advocate as if I'm lucky I'll be there in a while.
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smg8 on 05/03/2025(UTC)
smg8
Posted: 05 March 2025 14:33:20(UTC)
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Aminatidi;336598 wrote:


That's the single sentence that stands out for me the most on this thread and I can relate.

I know this is "only" a five percent or so dip (so far) but it's been bloody liberating to be able to sit back not being concerned whether I've backed the right fund manager 👍🏼

Genuine question - what's so magical about the £600K mark that you're debating going more active?

i.e. why not £500K or why not £700K etc.

Devils advocate as if I'm lucky I'll be there in a while.


Agree on the peace of mind that comes with not second-guessing. I remember the market wobble in 2021 when I was holding positions that dropped far more than the market, and I had that nagging thought: have I done something stupid here.

It's a fair question you ask.

It’s not so much about hitting a specific milestone, it’s more about the growing concentration in what I already own. Risk management and diversification naturally start to weigh on my mind as my portfolio grows - it's why any portfolio tweaks made last couple of years have been new tax year time.

If I follow the same allocation for next year’s SIPP and ISA contributions, my holdings in global equity index trackers would rise to around £710K (based on my December spreadsheet - I suspect a bit less now given market moves). That starts to feel like a lot.

I always told myself that when my portfolio hit £1mn, I'd take things a bit more seriously. But that milestone came and went, and I just kept making the same monthly contributions without much thought. While I like the simplicity of continuing down that path forever, at some point, I have to ask myself: is this still the most sensible approach?

I don’t need more than say 7% annual returns to meet my financial goals, so with fresh capital coming in, why take on more risk than necessary?

I’m at that tipping point between how much risk I can take (quite a lot, given I’m 19 years away from SIPP access) and how much risk I need to take (probably less than I currently am).

To be clear, I’m not considering anything drastic - I may well end up not doing anything. But I am thinking more about diversification beyond simply adding more to a global tracker.




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ben ski
Posted: 05 March 2025 20:45:06(UTC)
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Remember the saying: "Long-term, asset allocation accounts for OVER 100% of returns."

Everything else we do is a net negative, 1st because it incurs costs, and 2nd because we're usually reacting to the same information as everyone else – and that crowding into trades may be the only market inefficiency left.

For much of post-GFC, actives were producing high-flying returns. There was residual fear among retail (reflected in Private Equity discounts), so 'quality' stocks were popular – Fundsmith, Lindsell Train... Micro-caps did really well – low quality businesses probably benefited more from policies through that period. But it's mostly just retail investor trends. Popular themes changed every few years – a big rotation from theme to theme. But index trackers were boring.

Now, of course, a few years of mega-cap tech leading everything, and everyone's going 'passive'. I don't think anything's really changed – it's still performance chasing (even if it's a smarter decision). I think ETFs have replaced what actives used to provide – which is exposure to sectors and styles. If you want to reduce risk, why not Wisdomtree Global Quality Dividend Growth? Or US Consumer Staples (two I use).

What's great about the FTSE World is you're always buying the winning theme, and everything else. The winning theme being such a big part of the market atm is why it feels easy. I remind myself, even though I'm buying all the winning tech stocks, I'm also buying Europe, banks, EM, etc. I don't think it needs any more overthinking. 90% FTSE World, 10% cash would be quite fine for the next 50 years.


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