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Should we have a 'Robin Hood' tax?
Gavin Lumsden (Citywire)
Posted: 02 November 2011 17:38:04(UTC)
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Rowan Williams, the archbishop of Canterbury, has reignited the debate over the Tobin or 'Robin Hood' tax on financial transactions.

Writing in the Financial Times today Williams argues the 'far-reaching' move would be a good way to address the 'widespread exasperation with the financial establishment' that the protestors at St Paul's have tapped into.

His article follows a report last week from the Vatican which even more strongly endorsed the idea of a financial transaction tax.

As Williams points out the idea has also been supported by George Soros and Bill Gates, who, he says, 'cannot be written off as naive anti-capitalists'.

In theory a financial transaction tax is very attractive. Applied universally across all markets it could raise lots of money and avoid the danger of hurting one sector or jurisdiction more than another.

But how do you get to such an ideal position? The Tobin tax is a bit like nuclear disarmament. You want to get there, but do you go on your own and abandon the weapons unilaterally?

The City and the chancellor are aghast at the notion of London becoming uncompetitive versus other financial centres if such a tax was levied here first.

Unfortunately, the dangerous farce in the eurozone right now shows how difficult it is to coordinate such moves internationally.

The debate Williams and the demonstrators have started is a good one. But where do we go from here?

David Rands
Posted: 02 November 2011 18:17:12(UTC)
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I think this would be far preferable to the iniquitously high VAT, which seriously stutifies all trade and services. Cut VAT by 50% and the much needed growth may come fast.
peter hart
Posted: 02 November 2011 18:21:41(UTC)
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Where should we go from here? Hopefully nowhere.
Wesley Kerslake
Posted: 02 November 2011 18:30:13(UTC)
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I understand the Tobin tax proposed by the EU bureaucrats was to pay for EU expenditure or Euro country rescues and since 70% of the EU total raised would come from London, we'd be paying even more into the EU black hole of endless expenditure.

There is also the argument that if only the EU imposed this tax, it would be easy for the business to be moved to other countries where such a tax wasn't imposed, although that argument also holds true for the stamp duty imposed on share transactions which we do have.

If we decide to impose such a tax to raise funds to help with our budget shortfall that's one thing, but if it's to pay more into the EU, forget it.

BOB BRIDGES
Posted: 02 November 2011 18:30:42(UTC)
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Bob Bridges

Nice idea and maybe Bill Gates and The Sage of Omaha are right. But, as you say, like world-wide nuclear disarmament, it's extremely unlikely to happen.

Even if it did, it wouldn't solve the underlying problem which is that far too many people in the financial community misbehave and the shareholders, mostly institutions and fund managers, don't put a stop to it .

I think those shareholders are the only ones capable of solving the problem.

Mind you, if all of 'us' , including the politicians, behaved more sensibly, that would be a huge help!
Anonymous Post
Posted: 02 November 2011 18:55:21(UTC)
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Anonymous 1 needed this 'Off the Record'

Yes, let's hit private sector money purchase pension schemes again. Says the wierdy beardy believer in Sky Fairies with his own gold plated final salary pension.
Frank Randall
Posted: 02 November 2011 18:56:16(UTC)
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I think a 'Tobin Tax' is a great idea but it must be unilateral, otherwise those with the tax will lose their financial markets to those without.
It ain't going to happen, and even if it does, someone will either break or bend the rules, with ensuing chaos.
Robin McEvoy
Posted: 02 November 2011 18:59:24(UTC)
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Silly Bearded B***er - who does he think will pay this tax? - it surely won't be the banks - it will be their customers.
Ian Phillips
Posted: 02 November 2011 19:06:16(UTC)
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Joined: 26/01/2011(UTC)
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Didn't Robin Hood hold wealthy Friars for ransome? That sounds about right, a surtax on religous land and property tax......
nickle
Posted: 02 November 2011 19:09:39(UTC)
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Joined: 15/09/2011(UTC)
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So lets see. A one pound Tobin tax on each use of an ATM. Lets make the tax transparent so all those who really pay at the end of the day, the citizen, and see where their money is going.

Somehow I see the idiots who think a Tobin tax would balk at people seeing the money going out of their hands directly with an ATM tax.

The conclusion is that they want the tax to be hidden. Secret. So that people don't realize they are being taxed. Very deceitful.
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