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Wear and Tear Replacement in a Rented Property
Ivor Nestegg
Posted: 21 March 2016 07:17:32(UTC)
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Can anyone explain to me how the new rules for landlords on Wear and Tear Replacement are meant to work in the following situation?

The property is 35 years old and the fixtures including the gas central boiler are original. The latest Gas Safety Inspection recommends that this boiler be replaced.

Presumably, the cost of replacing the boiler itself would be an allowable deduction from my rental income under these new rules BUT it would make sense to do this as part of a general makeover of the flat. E.g. move the boiler from its present position in a hall cupboard, where there are issues with ventilation, to an outside wall in the kitchen and put in a modern kitchen. Similarly with replacing the old bathroom units.

The cost of so doing would amount to several years rental income but would, in my opinion, be worthwhile in terms of improving its letting potential and also the resale value of the property.

Would these other costs be allowable and if so do I simply carry them forward as "losses" until they are written off?
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James Burn
Posted: 27 March 2016 12:10:46(UTC)
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The wear and tear allowance doesn't cover fixtures, such as a boiler. As you note, the rules for the wear and tear allowance are changing between 2015-16 and 2016-17 tax years.

The rules on relief of fixtures are unchanged. You will either be able to offset the cost of the boiler repair against income or against capital gains. This depends on whether you enhance the property. If you do the general makeover, the cost of replacing the boiler will be part of this, but the whole cost must be offset against capital gains. You will claim this when you sell the property.

If you just replace the boiler, it must be offset against income. If the total income you make in a tax year is negative, this can be offset against income in a future year.
paul kaye
Posted: 28 March 2016 11:33:12(UTC)
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re new boiler
These can be claimed for against you rental income.
I suggest any queries on Buy to let,expenses etc be looked at on GOV.uk
All information is on the government site.
Ivor Nestegg
Posted: 04 April 2016 10:12:59(UTC)
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Thanks for this.

I have read the GOV.UK information but some of it is very vague and ambiguous when it comes to "fixtures" such as bathroom and kitchen units.

If I have understood the rules and what you say correctly:

* Replacing the boiler would be allowable against income because I have an Engineer's Report recommending this

* Replacing (for example) a cooker or carpet that was faulty or worn would be allowed against income as would replacing a broken bathroom unit.

* However, replacing the bathroom and kitchen units simply because they are "old fashioned" is an improvement and has to be offset against capital gains when I sell the property.

The trouble with that is that I have no intention of selling the property. So it looks as though the replacement boiler will have to stay where it is, even though that is not ideal.
Jon Snow
Posted: 05 April 2016 00:05:22(UTC)
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Ivor Nestegg;32369 wrote:
Thanks for this.

I have read the GOV.UK information but some of it is very vague and ambiguous when it comes to "fixtures" such as bathroom and kitchen units.

If I have understood the rules and what you say correctly:

* Replacing the boiler would be allowable against income because I have an Engineer's Report recommending this

* Replacing (for example) a cooker or carpet that was faulty or worn would be allowed against income as would replacing a broken bathroom unit.

* However, replacing the bathroom and kitchen units simply because they are "old fashioned" is an improvement and has to be offset against capital gains when I sell the property.

The trouble with that is that I have no intention of selling the property. So it looks as though the replacement boiler will have to stay where it is, even though that is not ideal.


A new boiler can be quite expensive can't it. I do wonder why we small landlords are hounded to extinction when the Panama lot reveal the true state of greed and fraud among those who would lead us.
James Burn
Posted: 05 April 2016 07:28:49(UTC)
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http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/m...s/pimmanual/PIM2020.htm

I hadn't read yhe above before, but seems clearer than other HMRC documents. In the end it would be a court not HMRC who make a final ruling on what the law says.
Micawber
Posted: 05 April 2016 07:36:36(UTC)
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j swales;32396 wrote:


A new boiler can be quite expensive can't it. I do wonder why we small landlords are hounded to extinction when the Panama lot reveal the true state of greed and fraud among those who would lead us.


The number of small landlords is at a record high. Meanwhile if I fit a new boiler at home I have to pay the full amount with no scope to offset the cost.
Guest
Posted: 05 April 2016 07:55:20(UTC)
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A new boiler can be quite expensive can't it. I do wonder why we small landlords are hounded to extinction when the Panama lot reveal the true state of greed and fraud among those who would lead us.


The current crop of politicians are in it for themselves, not us.
sandra sellers
Posted: 19 April 2016 11:21:07(UTC)
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Even if the repairs are substantial, that does not of itself make them capital for tax purposes, provided the character of the asset remains unchanged. For example, if a fitted kitchen is refurbished the type of work carried out might include the stripping out and replacement of base units, wall units, sink etc., re-tiling, work top replacement, repairs to floor coverings and associated re-plastering and re-wiring. Provided the kitchen is replaced with a similar standard kitchen then this is a repair and the expenditure is allowable. If at the same time additional cabinets are fitted, increasing the storage space, or extra equipment is installed, then this element is a capital addition and not allowable (applying whatever apportionment basis is reasonable on the facts). But if the whole kitchen is substantially upgraded, for example if standard units are replaced by expensive customised items using high quality materials, the whole expenditure will be capital.
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