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AlanP2
Posted: 12 November 2021 17:44:02(UTC)

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This is the quote that made me smile from the investment manager at Kingswood:


He should spread his pension money across more funds and bring his portfolio more closely in line with the makeup of global markets.


Alternatively, and cheaper, he should spread his pension money across fewer funds and bring his portfolio more closely in line with the makeup of global markets by buying 1 global tracker.



What is the point of using active funds if all you are going to do is align your portfolio with the makeup of global markets?
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Posted: 12 November 2021 22:06:01(UTC)

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I agree with Mr Hammett that markets look pricey. Like him, I think a correction is likely, especially for the most expensive areas of the market, such as American shares.
However, given his concern, I would pick different funds. Fundsmith Equity, his second largest position, is invested heavily in American companies, which account for 73pc of the fund. An alternative is Schroder Global Recovery, which holds fewer expensive US companies and spreads its money more evenly between different markets.


This advice is so bad that it's bordering on being negligent.

The peak-to-trough drawdown in Fundsmith in Q1-2020 was 20%. The peak-to-trough drawdown in Schroder Global Recovery in Q1-2020 was 37%.

FS has a 5-year annualised return (admittedly a period over which its performance has somehwat slipped relative to its initial performance) of 18.5% vs the benchmark of 14.7%.

For Schroder Global Recovery, the 5 year performance is a measly 7.7% vs its benchmark of 14,1%.

As far as I can tell, the top holdings of Eni, ING, Centrica, StanChart, IMB are just toxic waste being passed off as "value" holdings.

I don't know what's more shocking - the performance of the fund or Fundhouse's view that re-allocating from FS into this fund is a shrewd investment move.
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Joe Soap
Posted: 13 November 2021 09:45:31(UTC)

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Or perhaps half of it depending on which bit, if any, Smith doesn't want going forward.

Personally, I think such splits, J&J, GSK etc.... display a complete failure of leadership by the senior executives. It's a case of being seen to be doing something. There's nothing that two or more seperated companies can achieve that one company cannot achieve if it is structured and managed correctly. It's just very trendy at the moment. The time will come when mergers and consolidation in the industry will bring various companies back together once it becomes fashionable again.
dominic tugal
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Steve U;194438 wrote:


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This is such a godsend that it merits a separate thank you post.
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Lu Mingyan on 25/11/2021(UTC)
Dan L
Posted: 13 November 2021 13:31:26(UTC)

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Terry Smith has commented before that it is the medical devices part that keeps them invested in J&J but he doesn't like the pharma. Hard to know what he will do here.
Frank Marquis
Posted: 18 November 2021 07:20:01(UTC)

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New webinar with Terry Smith:

https://youtu.be/MIVALZmZPDE
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Frank Marquis;195522 wrote:
New webinar with Terry Smith:

https://youtu.be/MIVALZmZPDE


Re Pet food, I couldn't agree more with TS. Five pet dogs ago I was feeding my dog £10-15 kibble, now in 2021 my current dog an Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog (taller classic type) is fed a raw meat diet supplemented with bones and fresh vegetables costing me monthly the equivalent of 2 weeks family shopping for 3 people.
I don't begrudge him even though he eats better than me.
I see pet supplies as a growing industry as we spend more on our pets than ever before and don't think it has peaked yet.
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Frank Marquis
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Jesse M;195760 wrote:
Frank Marquis;195522 wrote:
New webinar with Terry Smith:

https://youtu.be/MIVALZmZPDE


Re Pet food, I couldn't agree more with TS. Five pet dogs ago I was feeding my dog £10-15 kibble, now in 2021 my current dog an Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog (taller classic type) is fed a raw meat diet supplemented with bones and fresh vegetables costing me monthly the equivalent of 2 weeks family shopping for 3 people.
I don't begrudge him even though he eats better than me.
I see pet supplies as a growing industry as we spend more on our pets than ever before and don't think it has peaked yet.


Agree + longer term emerging market demand. I'm always amazed by the diet pet food stat.
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Jesse M on 19/11/2021(UTC)
Dennis .
Posted: 22 November 2021 10:09:57(UTC)

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I was talking to the owner of a general hardware store, the sort of place that sells everything from screws to garden furniture etc and asked what was the most profitable line. She said "without a doubt it's pet food and bird food, I have pensioners who come in here every week and buy this stuff even though they don't look as if they can afford it". That tells us something.
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