You are right Ian, there is no interest in insurance backed investments in today's more sophisticated market. I have always avoided investments from insurance companies as they have been the acknowledged experts in offering (very) high cost products with generally poor performance. Always kept insurance (vital) separate from investment, and have not bought endowments, with profits, or God forbid, whole of life policies (and I worked for a life assurance company for a time). Fortunately the hijacking of investing by assurance companies seems to be over.