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One Year Interest Rates
Shetland
Posted: 15 November 2022 19:33:54(UTC)
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I am wondering if one year rates are likely to rise again in the next couple of weeks. I have some cash which needs a home for a year and am wondering whether to lock into the 4.6% currently available or wait 3/4 weeks to see if they rise.
Mish Mash
Posted: 15 November 2022 20:04:38(UTC)
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Due to the fact that 2&3 year rates are only about 0.25% higher, I think that 4.6% might be as good as we are going to get.

Especially interesting for both basic rate and higher tax rate payers, I’ve seen a 5 year fixed isa at 5.05% and the interest can be paid into your nominated account if you need the income. Excellent tax free income above the standard 4% ‘Safe Withdrawal Rate’ retirement strategists.

Bit like the old days.
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Posted: 15 November 2022 21:17:29(UTC)
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Shetland;247972 wrote:
I am wondering if one year rates are likely to rise again in the next couple of weeks. I have some cash which needs a home for a year and am wondering whether to lock into the 4.6% currently available or wait 3/4 weeks to see if they rise.


I was waiting for the last rise, the rates on offer didn't go up so I went in on two years at 4.75%

Waiting for some funds to come out and then planning to repeat the same.

Some 5.1% 5 year deals have vanished Inthe meantime

If doing multi year check it is compounded, many are not 🙄
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Shetland
Posted: 15 November 2022 22:18:21(UTC)
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I don’t want to commit for any more than 18 months. I will be using HL active savings for the first time as I am so fed up with all the hassle from my bank when I try and move large amounts in and out of my account
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Mish Mash
Posted: 16 November 2022 19:46:06(UTC)
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ANDREW FOSTER;247996 wrote:
Shetland;247972 wrote:
I am wondering if one year rates are likely to rise again in the next couple of weeks. I have some cash which needs a home for a year and am wondering whether to lock into the 4.6% currently available or wait 3/4 weeks to see if they rise.


I was waiting for the last rise, the rates on offer didn't go up so I went in on two years at 4.75%

Waiting for some funds to come out and then planning to repeat the same.

Some 5.1% 5 year deals have vanished Inthe meantime

If doing multi year check it is compounded, many are not 🙄


On your last point, I’m also doing these checks. It is not obvious which ones do (or don’t).
Mr_Jimbo
Posted: 16 November 2022 20:40:33(UTC)
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Perhaps a silly question but I’ve never used a savings account due to the low rates in recent years.

For non-ISA accounts, how is the taxable gain calculated if the fixed term is longer than 1 year, and interest only paid at maturity? For example, let’s say I put down £10k and am a higher rate tax payer with £500 annual allowance. Ignoring compounding, it generates a total of £1000 in interest, paid at the end of the 2 year fixed period.

Does the £1000 interest exceed the £500 annual allowance because 2-years’ worth of interest is paid at maturity? If so, then it would be more tax efficient to opt for a product that pays annually?

ANDREW FOSTER;247996 wrote:

If doing multi year check it is compounded, many are not 🙄

I assume this is because it makes the above calculation simpler for people looking to avoid the annual allowance tax issue?
Thrugelmir
Posted: 16 November 2022 20:45:06(UTC)
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Interest needs to be declared in the tax year in which it is paid or credited. This is the data that the HMRC wlll be notified of.

NSI Green Bonds only pay the interest at the end of the 3 year term. Something one needs to be aware of when investing . As will be a compounded figure.
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Posted: 16 November 2022 23:05:41(UTC)
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Mr_Jimbo;248096 wrote:


ANDREW FOSTER;247996 wrote:

If doing multi year check it is compounded, many are not 🙄

I assume this is because it makes the above calculation simpler for people looking to avoid the annual allowance tax issue?


I think it's more of a marketing thing to make a headline rate look larger than the return actually provides.

For example:-

Investec
Account Information
Interest rate
4.75% AER
Does the interest compound?
No

Interest £1,900.00

QIB
Expected profit rate
4.75% AER
Does the profit get reinvested?
Yes

Interest £1,945.13

Both thus have the SAME AER but different returns

(QIB use the term reinvested not compounded as its a Sharia account)
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