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AJ Bell Passive Funds
smg8
Posted: 18 February 2023 17:58:21(UTC)
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Rory Barr;258196 wrote:
smg8;258190 wrote:
Rory Barr;258188 wrote:

If so, its Monthly Factsheet shows its exposure to China Equity as 5.48%: https://www.ajbell.co.uk...al_Growth_factsheet.pdf

I can't see any funds in the "Growth" range approaching anything like 17%: https://www.ajbell.co.uk...ment-ideas/ajbell-funds

Are we looking at different funds?


Sorry yes I’m referring to global growth.

Their fact sheet is showing a china specific etf at 5.48%, however there is a 33% holding in emerging markets ETFs which themselves hold big China allocations (30% and 40%).

Morningstar is showing china as an overall 17% allocation on a look through basis. Which is punchy!


Possibly so (the 17%) but I wasn't just reading the China ETF value, I was going off the data in bottom right hand corner of Page 1 of the factsheet. Even when I look at the other ETFs that you'd expect to have exposure to China, I don't get to 17%.

I've looked at Morningstar and can see the 17.69% so I guess it's correct. I'm surprised AJB's governance processes haven't picked up on that and dialled it down. I do question whether it's correct. But then again, Ruffer bought BTC!


Morningstar isn’t always right unfortunately so it’s a bit of guessing game here!

But if 33% of the fund is in ETFs with an average of 35% China that gives what just over 11/12% China? Add the 5.48% from the China specific ETF and it seems to stack up with some rounding…

I agree it seems unusually high, it kind of put me off the fund in the end.


Bob Macondale
Posted: 18 February 2023 18:19:57(UTC)
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Interesting thread and thanks for the contributions.

Appreciate quite a lot of discussion on the AJ Bell funds have been around the growth / higher risk end.

The one that interests me is the AJ Bell Balanced fund. The fact sheet shows a split of equity 53%, fixed income 34%, cash 6%, alternatives 5% (equity allocation reduced / bonds increased compared to the breakdown in the Q4 2022 report).

On the face of it, the broad allocation by category looks pretty similar to the HSBC Global Strategy Balanced fund and not that far off the Vanguard 60 fund.

There is not a huge amount in it, but the AJ Bell fund looks to have out performed these two other funds over 1, 3 and 5 years.

Any thoughts around the allocation / risk levels within the AJ Bell balanced fund or is there anything better for an off the shelf 60/40 type fund which hasn’t been mentioned on this thread ?

Just to add, I am in the process of trying to tidy up my portfolio across ISA's / SIPP and looking to replace various low conviction holdings that I have added over the years when trying to either add income (reits) or diversification which is all too messy and over complicated. I want to get rid and replace these with a single fund which is at the lower risk end, ie something like the AJ Bell Balanced fund, which can sit alongside global trackers and my higher conviction equity funds.

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Posted: 18 February 2023 18:22:42(UTC)
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I'd be inclined to split 50:50 between moderately adventurous and global growth. Might consider that for the Mrs' LISA portfolio actually.

I admire the intent with the global growth fund. It's genuinely one for the brave. Far more 'aggressive' than blindly following the herd into SMT/EWI was for example! Likely High vol, but highly contrarian also. But I'll admit it is a bit spicy, even for our tolerance, hence the instinct to moderate by blending it with the moderately adventurous fund.
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smg8
Posted: 19 February 2023 10:41:29(UTC)
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Bob Macondale;258198 wrote:


There is not a huge amount in it, but the AJ Bell fund looks to have out performed these two other funds over 1, 3 and 5 years.





It’s worth looking at how that outperformance came about.

Has it been steadily outperforming each year? Or did they get lucky one year out of 5 which flatters the annualised figures?
Rory Barr
Posted: 19 February 2023 16:25:39(UTC)
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One of the attractions of these multi-asset funds is their simplicity. So it's making me laugh a bit just how difficult it is to choose which one/ones to start buying!

First you need to select your risk tolerance (ie where are you on the spectrum of, usually, 4 or 5 funds in the range offered by the provider). Then how many different providers to allocate to (which may depend on size of portfolio/amount to be allocated to multi-asset funds) and which 'style' to select (active/dynamic allocation, fixed/global, hedged bonds/unhedged etc).

And just when I thought I was making progress, it turns out BlackRock, who can't be ignored due to their scale, have three ranges to choose from!

MyMap: https://www.blackrock.com/uk/solutions/mymap

Multi-Asset Funds, Active and Consensus: https://www.blackrock.co...tions/multi-asset-funds

Anyone got experience of any of these?
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smg8
Posted: 19 February 2023 16:44:18(UTC)
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Problem with MyMap is they all hold ESG indexes rather than vanilla indexes. So basically just loads more tech and chunkier holdings in Apple, Microsoft, Tesla etc. Makes it a no from me, though appreciate others may not mind.

I believe they also hedge half their equity exposure or something, which again may be seen as a positive or a negative.
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Rory Barr on 19/02/2023(UTC)
Aminatidi
Posted: 19 February 2023 16:53:59(UTC)
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How much actual variance is there between these anyway once you adjust for risk level?

So for example you can go buy £100K of LS60 or you can buy 10 x £10K active fund of passive ETF products that are "balanced" risk exposure.

Are you really making a big difference to your overall exposure and the overall outcome for the additional effort?
Rory Barr
Posted: 19 February 2023 17:27:23(UTC)
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Aminatidi;258280 wrote:
How much actual variance is there between these anyway once you adjust for risk level?

So for example you can go buy £100K of LS60 or you can buy 10 x £10K active fund of passive ETF products that are "balanced" risk exposure.

Are you really making a big difference to your overall exposure and the overall outcome for the additional effort?


If I'm understanding your question properly, for me it makes sense having three or four that combine home bias/global, hedged global bonds/unhedged global bonds, and perhaps one that's quite actively/dynamically tweaked. That way you can cover all the bases IMHO.

So, for example, at the 60:40 nominal level in the spectrum, hold these three:

LS 60 - home bias, sterling hedged global bonds, index-linked bonds, all with fixed allocations

Fidelity Multi Asset Allocator 'Growth' - no home bias, unhedged global bonds, some small caps, and property, again fixed allocations

HSBC Global Strategy 'Balanced' - more 'actively managed', unhedged global bonds, some derivatives, property, no home bias

That would be 58% equities, and cover all the possibilities re the other variables (ie max diversification within the nominal 60:40 selection). Not bad for 20 bps.

Is that what you meant?
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Aminatidi
Posted: 19 February 2023 17:46:17(UTC)
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Rory Barr;258283 wrote:
If I'm understanding your question properly, for me it makes sense having three or four that combine home bias/global, hedged global bonds/unhedged global bonds, and perhaps one that's quite actively/dynamically tweaked. That way you can cover all the bases IMHO.

So, for example, at the 60:40 nominal level in the spectrum, hold these three:

LS 60 - home bias, sterling hedged global bonds, index-linked bonds, all with fixed allocations

Fidelity Multi Asset Allocator 'Growth' - no home bias, unhedged global bonds, some small caps, and property, again fixed allocations

HSBC Global Strategy 'Balanced' - more 'actively managed', unhedged global bonds, some derivatives, property, no home bias

That would be 58% equities, and cover all the possibilities re the other variables (ie max diversification within the nominal 60:40 selection). Not bad for 20 bps.

Is that what you meant?


Basically yes.

I wonder what events might lead you to end up too far away if you just went with one them v 3-4 funds all landing within a couple of bps of each other?

Not suggesting there's anything at all wrong with doing that just posing the question as simplification is kind of my own grail.
Rory Barr
Posted: 19 February 2023 17:56:09(UTC)
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Aminatidi;258286 wrote:

Basically yes.

I wonder what events might lead you to end up too far away if you just went with one them v 3-4 funds all landing within a couple of bps of each other?

Not suggesting there's anything at all wrong with doing that just posing the question as simplification is kind of my own grail.


Two other aspects would prevent me from going with just one of them:

I have a max I'd invest with any single fund

You've got to keep something to monitor and fret about! LOL
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