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Brookfield Corp (BN on NYSE and BN.TO - Toronto)
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Posted: 12 February 2025 12:56:09(UTC)
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Some good news for Brookfield Corp holders.

Firstly - Brookfield Asset Management Announces Record 2024 Results and 15% Dividend Increase
- Over $135 Billion of Capital Inflows; $48 Billion of Capital Deployed in 2024
- Quarterly Fee-Related Earnings up 17% Year-Over-Year to a Record $677 Million

Secondly - Brookfield has taken further steps to get BAM listed.
- The mother-ship has provided liquidity enabling the potential to get BAM listed on the exchange.
- BN owns 73% of BAM and keeps it on it Balance sheets
- However it has said it will provide liquidity and allow those shares to be traded.
- This will mean that BN can, if it chooses to, buy back some of those shares or sell them.

Thirdly - It is making strides in some major expansion.
- The recent announcement that it has been allowed and has bid for the Australian superannuation system.
- This makes BN to be the third bidder for access
- It enables BN to get more of a hold into the insurance sector.

- Fourthly - It is also making strides in Europe
- To build on its European expansion - it is starting in France
- It will begin with major investment in the AI development space.

All these, IMO makes Brookfield relatively still undervalued despite the stock rallying so much of late.
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Chris Ould
Posted: 12 February 2025 13:40:53(UTC)
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Bought BN. just over a year ago after heads-up from LondonYank (thank you)...article below in FT today;

Brookfield, one of the world’s largest owners of renewable power, is hunting for bargains in the solar and wind sector, in a bet that investor panic over Donald Trump’s anti-green agenda has been overdone.

Brookfield’s president Connor Teskey said the group, which manages $126bn in renewable energy and lower-carbon investments, was actively looking for big listed sustainable energy producers to buy.

His comments are a vote of confidence in a sector that has been hit by Trump’s sweeping cuts to green energy initiatives, as the new president moves to dismantle Joe Biden’s climate and industrial legacy.

“The [difference] between public market valuations and private market valuations in this space is very large right now [meaning] we expect there will be investment opportunities [among listed companies],” said Teskey in an interview with the Financial Times.

“With the current position of the public markets we’re certainly monitoring a few things,” he added.

Brookfield plans to keep investing in renewable energy even as Trump has moved to slash support for the sector in favour of bolstering oil and gas production. Teskey said soaring electricity demand in the US from power-hungry data centres meant that sustainable energy sources would continue to be in demand.

“The scale of the demand growth requires companies to use any and all types of power generation solutions. Renewables are going to benefit from that and will play a leading role because of their low-cost position,” he added.

Shares in listed renewable energy companies such as First Solar, XPLR Infrastructure and Vestas Wind Systems have fallen sharply since Trump’s election in November, as traders forecast a bleak outlook for such companies in the US.

In his first week in office, Trump ordered a moratorium on offshore wind approvals and paused hundreds of billions of dollars of incentives for green energy.

However, Teskey said Trump’s “focus on growth, industrialisation, and American excellence” was creating a growing demand for electricity in the US”, adding that large technology companies were in fact “looking to acquire more clean power than ever before”.

Last year, Brookfield acquired a majority stake in French renewable power producer Neoen and acquired four large UK wind farms from struggling Danish developer Ørsted.

Its renewable business also struck a deal with Microsoft to develop 10.5 gigawatts of green energy capacity for the technology group’s data centres, potentially costing more than $10bn.

In financial results released on Wednesday, Brookfield’s earnings were buoyed by strong fundraising in its renewable power and credit-oriented investment business.

In the fourth quarter, Brookfield raised a record $29bn in new investor cash, including $3.5bn for its second fund targeting so-called “energy transition”. The fund, which will close by mid-year, is already larger than a predecessor $15bn pool of cash Brookfield raised in 2022.

Brookfield added $137bn in new investor cash during 2024, a figure that was bolstered by some large acquisitions.

The new cash to invest caused Brookfield’s fourth-quarter fee-related earnings to reach a record $688mn, a 17 per cent increase from this time last year, slightly surpassing analyst forecasts.

Earlier this month, Brookfield changed its headquarters from Toronto to New York in a bid to increase its shareholder base and eventually gain inclusion in the S&P 500 index.
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ben ski
Posted: 12 February 2025 18:44:37(UTC)
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I haven't looked deeply into Brookfield, but I'd be conscious of their current debt and Altman z-score. And that people are paying that much for public infrastructure, while we can buy like-for-like private assets here on silly discounts without all that debt.

Google AI's telling me there may be nearly a 50% chance of bankruptcy in Brookfield Renewable Corp in the next two years. Momentum looks good on price and fundamentals.
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Posted: 13 February 2025 11:10:29(UTC)
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Chris Ould;334099 wrote:
Bought BN. just over a year ago after heads-up from LondonYank (thank you)...article below in FT today;

Brookfield, one of the world’s largest owners of renewable power, is hunting for bargains in the solar and wind sector, in a bet that investor panic over Donald Trump’s anti-green agenda has been overdone.

Brookfield’s president Connor Teskey said the group, which manages $126bn in renewable energy and lower-carbon investments, was actively looking for big listed sustainable energy producers to buy.





UKW down 10% YTD ex div.... 22% discount... £4.5bn assets going cheap... (yes I just added more)...
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markydeedrop on 15/02/2025(UTC)
Big boy
Posted: 13 February 2025 13:18:52(UTC)
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ben ski;334143 wrote:
I haven't looked deeply into Brookfield, but I'd be conscious of their current debt and Altman z-score. And that people are paying that much for public infrastructure, while we can buy like-for-like private assets here on silly discounts without all that debt.

Google AI's telling me there may be nearly a 50% chance of bankruptcy in Brookfield Renewable Corp in the next two years. Momentum looks good on price and fundamentals.



What is everyone's target SP please....
Raj K
Posted: 13 February 2025 13:51:29(UTC)
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Big boy;334212 wrote:
ben ski;334143 wrote:
I haven't looked deeply into Brookfield, but I'd be conscious of their current debt and Altman z-score. And that people are paying that much for public infrastructure, while we can buy like-for-like private assets here on silly discounts without all that debt.

Google AI's telling me there may be nearly a 50% chance of bankruptcy in Brookfield Renewable Corp in the next two years. Momentum looks good on price and fundamentals.



What is everyone's target SP please....



Why not think of it as is Brookfield a company that can build intrinsic value over 10,20, 30 years? From what i see BN is currently around 17-18 x a multiple of its underlying earnings atm... do you believe management's estimation of future growth? Do you understand the company, I have been trying to absorb information to understand its different income streams, the Asset Management Business, the Wealth Solutions business, and their operating businesses. Maybe you could just take the market cap of all of the listed businesses and compare to the current market cap of BN? You may see that some of their businesses are coming in for free! What about the conglomerate discount? For me I have just bought some more as I think it will compound in value for the ext 20 years .




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Posted: 13 February 2025 14:16:37(UTC)
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Big boy;334212 wrote:
ben ski;334143 wrote:
I haven't looked deeply into Brookfield, but I'd be conscious of their current debt and Altman z-score. And that people are paying that much for public infrastructure, while we can buy like-for-like private assets here on silly discounts without all that debt.

Google AI's telling me there may be nearly a 50% chance of bankruptcy in Brookfield Renewable Corp in the next two years. Momentum looks good on price and fundamentals.



What is everyone's target SP please....

To me this is not what I call a trading stock (which I believe is the approach you take).
I tend to think of it more as a good quality business which is likely to grow over time (management, different operations, sectors it operates in etc, cashflow, debts, profitability, margins etc etc.)

This is very different from the likes of BigBear AI, AppLovin (which I got kicked out @$475 but fall below $450 and I will be back in), PANW etc etc. where I have target prices which when filled will kick me out, similarly a price below which will fill my orders.

I only need to look at the likes of BN like a global fund or tracker once every so often to ensure the thesis on which I bought are still relevant. However the other things I need to monitor the SP regularly and trade in and out of - For these there is not time limit, they are part of my crazy trading portfolio.

Uber for me me is on a tear and I will be looking for an exit soon but I will still be in it via PSH. But I went it before the PSH announcement and the 3x version is sitting on a 35% gain in a couple of months. That is a trading stock.

I do not have the skill or resource to analyse all the stocks in the universe, (for that I have trackers and active collectives) but for a small section that I kinda understand I am happy to trade, and for these I have in and out positions,

Gotta dash, I hear Hims&Hers have upset the pharma industry and the likes of Novo are fuming over their business model, and their apps (one for Him and one for Her) has moved to the top 5 download. I already have a position so will either trade up setting limits along the way (had a target sell @ $40 but adjusted that to $55 but with a kill at $42)

My tax advisers are gonna love me this year !
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Jay P on 13/02/2025(UTC)
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Posted: 13 February 2025 15:16:00(UTC)
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Over the decades we have seen that just buying the "best" and speculating/gambling it's going to be the best in 20 years is not the best way of managing money in my view.

Unfortunately most Professional's and PIs seem to think it is. My view is based on managing money via many Products and Services.

The most important issue is are they under or overvalued to-day. Just buy at 12 month high is speculating when the SP was much lower during the last 12 months.

Investors buying SMT/EWI at all time highs will not be happy that it was the "best" then. The later were clearly overvalued by weight of money and then investors turned on the "best". and as SP underperformed the nav they turned negative all with in a very short time ....who forecast this??

I believe SP (fact0 is more important than the fiction of what will happen next week or in 20 years time. We all appreciate the world is changing and if we had taken a view on the SP we would all be holding say Vodaphone which was one of the "best"....clearly not a good investment as shareholders were overpaying for the "best" yet again.

In order to make a decision I wish to know which is cheaper to-day either BN or PSH. Sadly I have know idea what will happen in next few years.

I appreciate that many find my thoughts difficult but they have developed over the years and luckily I Neve got trapped constrained by. "textbook methods".

You will appreciate I am not going to win friends and get many "thanks". the later is easy but I am not that needy.
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Posted: 13 February 2025 15:20:08(UTC)
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Can someone let me know what the top 10 FTSE 100 shares were 20 years ago. thank you..
Raj K
Posted: 13 February 2025 15:27:42(UTC)
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@BBOY

In order for you to work out if PSH or BN is better value you are going to have to roll your sleeves up and work out the intrinsic value of the underlying companies in PSH.... or just go by the discount to NAV of PSH compared to the discount to plan value of BN.... Are you brave enought to do that? The BN conference call going on at the moment, the CEO of BN says the plan value is $100 per share (what is plan value, is it the NAV? ) so PSH at what 30% discount or BN at 40% discount? I wish it was as simple as comparing discounts!
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