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Thrugelmir
Posted: 17 February 2023 09:22:43(UTC)
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Logic Prophets;257980 wrote:
Thrugelmir;257972 wrote:
Until the Government offloads stock liquidity will remain constrained. Better liquidity will ultimately result in higher demand. Chicken and egg so to speak.


I would have thought that a huge slug of share entering the market will surprise the share price until the sale is completed.


Shares get placed at a discount to the current market price. All above board and transparent.
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Tom 123
Posted: 17 February 2023 09:23:49(UTC)
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The banks have spent 14 years recapitalising. Value environment and financials like rising rates (which I foresee continuing elevated, i.e. never going back to 0%).

No concern, expect financials to do well this decade.

6% or 9% moves are nothing. Are we investors or traders?
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Logic Prophets on 20/02/2023(UTC)
Thrugelmir
Posted: 17 February 2023 09:43:42(UTC)
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Tom 123;257982 wrote:

No concern, expect financials to do well this decade.

6% or 9% moves are nothing. Are we investors or traders?


When buying individual shares best to have more than expectations. Whether you are an investor or a trader you could well be disappointed otherwise. Plenty of banks to research and chose from.

Banks balance sheets are also far smaller now. The boom days of GFC profitability are past. More emphasis on cost cutting. Running branches is a drain in a digital age.
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Phil 2 on 18/02/2023(UTC)
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Posted: 18 February 2023 08:25:24(UTC)
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Here’s a succinct summary by Proactive. Having read it I can still feel myself saying “Huh?!” like I did yesterday for a full 5 minutes, head shaking in disbelief before calmly buying a load more shares. Time will tell on this one, but I suspect we’ll see a SP of £3 again relatively soon. Other outcomes are available.



NatWest Group PLC (LSE:NWG) reported a strong increase in annual profits, a big hike to the dividend and an £800mln share buyback as rising interest rates boosted performance.

Operating pre-tax profits in the 12 months to 31 December 2022 rose to £5.13bn from £3.84bn the year before, broadly in line with City expectations, while total income jumped to £13.16bn from £10.43bn and earnings per share rose to 33.8p from 27.3p.

Bank net interest margin (NIM) for the year was 2.85%, 55 basis points (bps) higher than 2021, with a strong increase in the fourth quarter to 3.2%, up 21 bps compared to the third quarter of 2022.

The FTSE 100-listed lender said it expects NIM of 3.2% in 2023, assuming interest rates of around 4% for the rest of the year.

Impairment charges were £337mln in 2022, around 9 bps of gross customer loans, principally reflecting the latest macro-economics.

“Underlying book performance remains strong, with credit conditions remaining benign and levels of default remaining low,” the bank said.

Impairment losses in 2023 are expected to be in line with the bank's through the cycle guidance of 20-30 bps, NatWest added.

The bumper profits saw shareholders rewarded with a final dividend of 10p, up from 7.5p a year ago, and the lender became the latest high profile firm to propose a share buyback, of up to £800mln. This will start in the first half of the new financial year.

NatWest said this took “total distributions deducted from capital in the year to £5.1bn, or 53p per share”.

Net lending increased by £7.3bn to £366.3bn during 2022, primarily reflecting £14.4bn of growth in Retail Banking mortgages, with gross new mortgage lending of £41.4bn, and a £5.7bn increase in Commercial & Institutional, partially offset by a £6.4bn decrease related to the exit from the Republic of Ireland.

The CET1 ratio of 14.2% was 170 bps lower than a year ago reflecting distributions and linked pension accruals.

NatWest continues to expect a return on tangible equity of 14-16%, forecast income for the year of £14.8bn and sees dividend payouts of 40% of attributable profit with further share buybacks dependent on government policy and limited to 4.99% of share capital.
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ANDREW FOSTER on 18/02/2023(UTC), Logic Prophets on 20/02/2023(UTC)
MarkSp
Posted: 20 February 2023 06:14:53(UTC)
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The issue seems to be three fold

1. They don't seem to be able to reduce their cost base...all the automation, branch closures, exits etc delivered...........
2. The voice over from the CEO was quite negative
3. The NIM forecast was below expectations suggesting that the market was anticipating higher revenue margins than the bank has signed up for. There may be something political there - hard sell when the biggest shareholder is the government in saying you are going to increase NIM by ...raising the coist of borrowing or not giving savers a fair return.

Overall....the results weren't bad, probably. Who knows what some of the accounts actually mean they are extraordinarily complicated.

I expect they will bounce back quickly
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Logic Prophets on 20/02/2023(UTC), Phil 2 on 20/02/2023(UTC)
Logic Prophets
Posted: 20 February 2023 06:29:35(UTC)
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Tom 123;257982 wrote:
The banks have spent 14 years recapitalising. Value environment and financials like rising rates (which I foresee continuing elevated, i.e. never going back to 0%).

No concern, expect financials to do well this decade.

6% or 9% moves are nothing. Are we investors or traders?


…. or gamblers!
Phil 2
Posted: 20 February 2023 07:32:02(UTC)
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20 February 2023

Commencement of On Market Share Buyback Programme

NatWest Group plc (the "Company" or "NWG") announces the commencement of its programme to buyback ordinary shares in the Company with a nominal value of £1.076923076923077 each ("Ordinary Shares").

On 17 February 2023, NWG announced its full year results and a share buyback programme (the "Programme") of up to £800 million. The Programme will commence on 20 February 2023 and will end no later than 20 July 2023, provided that the term of the Programme may be extended to end no later than 28 July 2023 to account for certain disruption events during the initial term of the Programme.

The Programme, the purpose of which is to reduce the issued share capital of NWG, will be for an aggregate market value equivalent of up to £800 million and will take place within the limitations of the authority granted by shareholders to the Board of NWG at its Annual General Meeting, held on 28 April 2022 and amended at its General Meeting held on 25 August 2022 to preserve the position that would have applied had the Share Consolidation not taken place (the "2022 Authority"). The 2022 Authority is due to expire at the conclusion of the 2023 AGM, or 30 June 2023, whichever is earlier (the "Expiry Date"). However, as Ordinary Shares are being purchased under the Programme which will have commenced prior to the Expiry Date, the 2022 Authority allows purchases to continue after such date and, therefore, up to 28 July 2023.

The maximum number of Ordinary Shares that can be purchased by NWG under the Programme is 966,284,391. This number reflects the impact on the 2022 Authority of the reduction in issued share capital following the off-market buyback announced on 28 March 2022.

NWG has entered into non-discretionary instructions with UBS AG, London Branch to conduct the Programme on its behalf and to make trading decisions under the Programme independently of NWG.

NWG intends to cancel the repurchased Ordinary Shares.
Phil 2
Posted: 20 February 2023 17:46:47(UTC)
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For any other holders still scratching their heads following the (over-?) reaction to Friday’s results, this summary by the pros at Barclays might be reassuring? Always good to get another perspective. Berenberg also updated their NWG guidance today, reducing their target price slightly to 360p as did Bank of America, to 390p (both rating it as a BUY). Obviously other opinions are available!! I always find these types of opinions (guesses?!) and the reasoning behind them really interesting.



Barclays Capital has cut its near-term earnings estimate for Natwest Group PLC following lower pre-provision profits but has lifted outer years slightly on lower impairments.

The UK clearing bank's current-year revenue guidance of £14.8bn appears underpinned by a number of conservative assumptions, which suggest upside potential, the research note said.

However, the outlook for deposits has emerged as a key area of uncertainty following fourth quarter outflows sooner than expected, rising deposit betas and mix shift, it said.

Barclays Capital sees Natwest's potential deposit outflows as potentially more significant than peers, it said.

Excess liquidity, resulting from Covid deposit inflows, is a rich source of income for the bank but any potential unwinding of this liquidity position, perhaps as a result of deposit outflows, could prove key.

Capital returns remain a key attraction, but Natwest's ongoing strategic efforts to address 'a structural underweight' in fee income may require further inorganic growth, following the recent acquisition of Cushon, Barclays said.

The shares were trading at about one time this year's tangible assets for a 15.7% to 15.2% return on tangible equity, the note said.

Barclays repeated its 'equal weight' recommendation on the stock and 400p price target - which is a 41% premium to the current share price of 283p.

Of the 22 banks and brokers following Natwest, 17 are positive on the stock. The consensus price target is 370p.
You have to change your life
Posted: 20 February 2023 18:33:14(UTC)
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Nobody should complain about the rally since last April 29 - 230/280 - well done.
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Phil 2 on 20/02/2023(UTC)
Keith Snow
Posted: 22 February 2023 10:40:38(UTC)
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Thanks for the info.
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