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NoMoreKickingCans
Posted: 06 March 2023 14:57:38(UTC)
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The case against climate catastrophising and net zero...

https://co2coalition.org/wp-cont...ith-Science-download.pdf
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Jonathan Friend on 08/03/2023(UTC)
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Posted: 08 March 2023 13:06:08(UTC)
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After this winter and the ludicrous cost of gas, caused by government incompetence and their climate catastrophe religion, I'm looking forward to warmer, more pleasant weather. Sadly, I'm already expecting the usual batshit nonsense in the media about how the nice weather is a symptom of our carbon sins and will cause the end of the world.

Interview here with David Starkey about the release of the covid files - notes that the problem with the covid response, and net zero, has been defining these things as emergencies and wars. Also comments about the bad science behind both.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wyMPrHMGEo
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stephen_s on 08/03/2023(UTC)
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Posted: 11 March 2023 11:21:55(UTC)
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Well worth an hour of your time over an hour spent reading or watching MSM...

https://youtu.be/djvfutJWRhY

The fundamental of science is data. Manipulate the data and you manipulate the science.
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Jonathan Friend on 24/03/2023(UTC)
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Posted: 24 March 2023 07:58:42(UTC)
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Not allowed on the BBC, nor other Gates funded MSM...

https://brugesgroup.com/blog/a-b...-basis-of-climate-change

Hey, don’t question ‘the narrative’ when the elite are making money off it.
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Jonathan Friend on 24/03/2023(UTC)
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Posted: 24 March 2023 09:36:50(UTC)
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The "science"...
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Posted: 25 March 2023 09:18:40(UTC)
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Posted: 25 March 2023 22:01:51(UTC)
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An amusing exchange between Ken Livingstone and David Starkey about climate change.

I hadn't realised what a dopey idealist Livingstone is. We really need to abolish the London assembly as a matter of urgency when it puts the capital in the hands of people like him, not to mention the poison dwarf currently in office there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WSj_Kk0sGI
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guantou on 25/03/2023(UTC)
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Posted: 26 March 2023 05:48:40(UTC)
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"After this winter and the ludicrous cost of gas, caused by government incompetence and their climate catastrophe religion"

So, nothing to do with Russia, Ukraine or energy traders?
Nothing to do with guzzling cheap energy and becoming dependent on Putin to support our lifestyles
Nothing to do with allowing UK onshore gas storage to be sold off for housing
Nothing to do with HMG refusing to fund the Rough gas Storage facility
Nothing to do with allowing any wide boy to become an energy supplier?

yes there are extreme views and a lot of tree huggers out there

The cost of producing gas didn't change that much, most is supplied on fixed supply deals. The price of gas was traded to ridiculous levels and then back down again and the energy traders have made remarkable profits - isn't that how the free market is supposed to work?

It would be good to agree the factual data, define the problem statement and after that apply the political/ideological filters to the solutions

is the sea level rising?
what impact could that have nationally, regionally and globally? that will deliver a range of results so what is the most likely range?

those questions aren't overtly political they are scientific

Whether you are descartes, proudhon, trotsky or Goldmans, an inch is an inch

Applying causality within the problem statement will usually result in the wrong policy being adopted and potential solutions being ignored as they don't fit the politics.
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ANDREW FOSTER on 26/03/2023(UTC)
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Posted: 26 March 2023 07:09:25(UTC)
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The net zero agenda is just another tool China’s CCP uses to achieve global domination. The US and the West has over 40 years built an evil monster it cannot control...

https://www.thegwpf.org/content/...-Chinas-Energy-Dream.pdf
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Posted: 26 March 2023 07:19:19(UTC)
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MarkSp;262225 wrote:
"After this winter and the ludicrous cost of gas, caused by government incompetence and their climate catastrophe religion"

So, nothing to do with Russia, Ukraine or energy traders?
Nothing to do with guzzling cheap energy and becoming dependent on Putin to support our lifestyles
Nothing to do with allowing UK onshore gas storage to be sold off for housing
Nothing to do with HMG refusing to fund the Rough gas Storage facility



To be fair, the switch to Russian Gas (over coal), the decisions not to develop onshore gas and (partly) the closure of Rough were all related to the government green agenda to wind down fossil fuels.

So the gist of the original post is largely valid. The gas crisis was self inflicted on the back of the green agenda.


Trump explicitly warned Europe 9and Germany i particular) against this, but everyone and his dog slagged him off for it. But once again he was proven right.

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German officials deny that the Nordstream pipeline will allow Russia to exert undue influence over their country


That aged well....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JpwkeTBwgs
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Jimmy Page on 26/03/2023(UTC)
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