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Going to be painful....
Rob B
Posted: 27 August 2024 10:45:38(UTC)
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'Big asks' of the public.... 'Those with the widest shoulders should bear the heaviest burden'....'What we inherited was 'worse than we ever imagined''....'In relation to working people - income tax, national insurance, VAT - we will not increase tax'.

Now the worst kept secret is out of the bag, what are Kier and Rachel planning? A raid on the higher earners that already pay a fair bit in tax.

The leading comment in the FT section: 'We won't tax workers, except those workers that were smart enough to save their hard earned money'....
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Sara G
Posted: 27 August 2024 11:03:31(UTC)
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Two years into retirement and after a significant bout of inflation has eroded my savings and increased my costs, and with little or no prospect of increasing my earning power, my shoulders don't feel that broad. But, someone has to pay for all those public sector pay increases I suppose, and they really don't care whether people like me support them or not.
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Ian Eccles
Posted: 27 August 2024 11:11:49(UTC)
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One day they will kill the Golden Goose and that day is not far off
My tax bill is that large, it is now split into two payments, one in January, the other in July and I am just a retired pensioner..
About time they got the lazy buggers back to work and pay their way like I had to do.
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Harry Gloom
Posted: 27 August 2024 11:27:24(UTC)
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They will keep their promise of not increasing personal taxes on “working families” but will reduce allowances such as tax relief on pension contributions and other such raids. Starmer chumming the water ahead of the budget.

I was as sick of the Tories as anyone but I didn't vote for this lot either. I have 5 more salary sacrifice pension accumulation payments due to go in before I finish work, exceeding the £60K annual allowance this tax year by using some remaining carry forward, how many of those will be left intact before the screws tighten?

Then what impact will they make to my decumulation plans? Target the 25% tax free lump sum for DC pensions? Create a new personal tax allowance for pensioners? A form of means testing for state pensions for couples with additional private pensions and ISA savings?

Simply taking more money off the greying population to shovel into the inefficient black hole money pit of public services isn't fixing the efficiency of service delivery problem.

Why do I get a NHS letter confirming an appointment after I have also received a text message confirming the same? Why does it seem like there are staff just milling about our local hospital without a great deal to do whenever I am sat in the waiting room for hours on end?
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Newbie
Posted: 27 August 2024 12:28:58(UTC)
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Ian Eccles;317104 wrote:
One day they will kill the Golden Goose and that day is not far off
My tax bill is that large, it is now split into two payments, one in January, the other in July and I am just a retired pensioner..
About time they got the lazy buggers back to work and pay their way like I had to do.

I thought this was the norm !
I have always paid one in Jan and one in July - is this not the case for everyone then ?
There has been hints for me to make monthly payments recently - with the logic of not being burdened with large payments at the end of six months (much the same way that utility companies try and do the same).
NoMoreKickingCans
Posted: 27 August 2024 13:05:27(UTC)
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They have only been in power for 2 months and already qualify as the worst government. Every decision they take is wrong and damaging to the country - energy, immigration, justice, taxation, education, health, public sector pay, free speech.

It is like having the bottom class from school put in charge.

Five years of this nonsense is going to be a living hell.
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NoMoreKickingCans
Posted: 27 August 2024 13:27:11(UTC)
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A huge majority coming for Kemi in 2029 if she gets rid of many of the old faces and takes on immigration and culture.

UK Population in 2004 - 60 Million
UK Population in 2024 - 69 Million

UK GDP per capita hasn't increased in 17 years.
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Posted: 27 August 2024 13:50:29(UTC)
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NoMoreKickingCans;317129 wrote:


Five years of this nonsense is going to be a living hell.



It could be more than 1 term , with the opposition split between the Tories and reform , it looks like a classic case of " Divide and rule " , plus I expect Labour to do everything they can to remain in power for as long as possible . That means many more public sector workers on higher pay , plus higher benefits , more immigration and maybe votes for younger people .
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ANDREW FOSTER
Posted: 27 August 2024 14:06:19(UTC)
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Ian Eccles;317104 wrote:

About time they got the lazy buggers back to work and pay their way like I had to do.


Huh?

So because you had a hard time you think everyone should?

I ask why should I pay for the workshy, the 'sick scroungers', for HS2, for hotels for boat people, the piss heads and weed smokers etc. etc.

No thanks. I don't owe those people anything.

What I have I worked hard for. I paid a lot of tax. I worked hard so I could retire early. How does that make me 'lazy' (if I understand the comment correctly)

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Luca Brasi
Posted: 27 August 2024 14:14:27(UTC)
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Just come off the phone with HL making some enquiries about crystallising the remainder of my SIPP before the autumn statement as I don't think this government can be trusted. The advisor was quite candid saying that they'd recently had a large amount of enquiries about SIPP crystallising.
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