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Pershing Square Holdings (PSH)
Mr GL
Posted: 11 December 2021 12:12:59(UTC)
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lindsay Morrison2;198894 wrote:
.....don't hold directly (buyers regret) but 2nd largest holding is AGT and note that Joe has been steadily increasing PSH allocation and now at 8.33%



Do you mean AGT/AVI holding of PSH? I see it as biggest...

as at end of Oct... https://www.aviglobal.co...021/11/AGT-OCT-2021.pdf
Top Ten Equity Holdings
Holding %
Pershing Square Holdings 8.3
EXOR 7.0
Third Point Investors 6.4
KKR 6.3 Sony 5.4
Aker ASA 5.3
Oakley Capital Investments 5.3
Christian Dior 4.3
Fondul Proprietatea 3.9
Investor AB ‘B’ 3.9
TOTAL 56.1
Alanis M
Posted: 11 December 2021 15:18:39(UTC)
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I see this week's Trust Watch article blames the wide discount on a lack of portfolio transparency / the inability to attribute gains in Nav. Does this really hold back investors / the discount percentage? It seems mad to me how sticky the discount has been on this trust.
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Mr GL on 11/12/2021(UTC)
Mr GL
Posted: 11 December 2021 15:28:25(UTC)
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Alanis M;198929 wrote:
I see this week's Trust Watch article blames the wide discount on a lack of portfolio transparency / the inability to attribute gains in Nav. Does this really hold back investors / the discount percentage? It seems mad to me how sticky the discount has been on this trust.


thanks for the reference... I hadn't seen it... reposted below... https://citywire.co.uk/i...ery-renewables/a1595064


Pershing Square Holdings (PSH) shoots close to the top of the risers list this week – pipped only by the winding-up Cambium Global Timberland (TREE) – after the £6.6bn closed-end fund, run by US hedge fund manager Bill Ackman, posted a handy gain in the value of its portfolio.

The sterling-denominated shares notched up a 6.9% gain over five trading days to close at £31.15 on Thursday. While no doubt pleasing for shareholders, who will be hoping there’s more to come given PSH shares’ still cavernous 28% discount to net asset value (NAV), working out what propelled those gains is not straightforward – much like Ackman’s ongoing adventures with the likes of Spacs, Sparcs and swaptions.

The FTSE 100 investment company, which gives weekly updates to the market on the value of its portfolio, reported NAV per share stood at $57.31 (£43.27) on Tuesday, up nearly 6% in a week for sterling investors.

Universal Music Group, now PSH’s biggest holding by some distance after Ackman snapped up a 10% stake in the process of its spin-out from Vivendi, did make some headway, though its shares have basically traded sideways since its blockbuster September flotation. Pershing Square Tontine, Ackman’s special purpose acquisition company (Spac), to which PSH also has exposure, likewise did little. The Spac, a ‘blank cheque’ vehicle used for taking an as-yet-unknown private company public, is facing a lawsuit, while a potential replacement vehicle (the even more esoteric Sparc) is also awaiting US regulatory approval.

The answer may be simpler: a rebound in the 10-or-so holdings in large North American companies that make up the rest of PSH’s portfolio, many of which are exposed to ups and downs in the real economy. The likes of Burger King-owner Restaurant Brands and hotelier Hilton have bounced back strongly since the sell-off when the omicron coronavirus variant emerged a fortnight ago, while a weakening in the pound has also flattered that effect for UK investors. Even the exact exposures there are opaque (analysts at Numis recently described the fund’s NAV as ‘somewhat difficult to model’), however, and the difficulty of attributing those gains clearly says something about the persistently wide discount.
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Julianw
Posted: 11 December 2021 16:54:07(UTC)
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Enjoyed inputs of regular contributors on investment trusts. Do not want to single out any one as not to miss any one out.

Another possible explanation of persistent large discount is the large minority interested by PSH capital management, essentially a controlling interest. I suppose its not that different from a number of other investment trusts.
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Alanis M
Posted: 12 December 2021 12:10:30(UTC)
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Julianw;198941 wrote:
Enjoyed inputs of regular contributors on investment trusts. Do not want to single out any one as not to miss any one out.

Another possible explanation of persistent large discount is the large minority interested by PSH capital management, essentially a controlling interest. I suppose its not that different from a number of other investment trusts.


If you're referring to the fact that Ackman et al have large insider stakes, I see this as a positive not a negative. Skin in the game makes me more comfortable!
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Robin on 12/12/2021(UTC)
Raj K
Posted: 12 December 2021 14:14:34(UTC)
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Does Pershing Square buy back its own shares? If i look at the share repurchases page on their website it shows the last in September last year? Have there not been any since then?
Mr GL
Posted: 30 December 2021 11:04:22(UTC)
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Raj K;199029 wrote:
Does Pershing Square buy back its own shares? If i look at the share repurchases page on their website it shows the last in September last year? Have there not been any since then?


Had a quick look through here https://www.londonstocke...e-holdings-ltd/analysis and not seeing anything recent re buybacks.
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Raj K on 30/12/2021(UTC)
Mr GL
Posted: 04 January 2022 08:54:17(UTC)
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Tue 04 Jan 2022 07:00

Pershing Square Holdings, Ltd. (LN:PSH) (LN:PSHD) (NA:PSH) today released the following regular monthly Net Asset Value (NAV) and Performance Report for the month of December 2021.


Net Performance
December 5.7%
YTD 2021 26.9%


NAV/Share (in GBP)
£42.33

Using SP of 3025p this is a 28.5% discount.... for a fund that produced a NAV return of 26.9% last year (net of all fees),

Share price over 2 years is up 107% and 3 years is up 201%... shares up only 19% last year...

EDIT *** first trades of the year... sold some RICA and added more PSH on these numbers.....

Now Pershing Square PSH Global Hedge Fund 8.6%
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mdss68
Posted: 04 January 2022 09:08:17(UTC)
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Raj K;199029 wrote:
Does Pershing Square buy back its own shares? If i look at the share repurchases page on their website it shows the last in September last year? Have there not been any since then?



Bit of a delayed answer, but if anyone's interested, it's worth dig through Kepler's research (it mostly is imho);

https://www.trustintelli...retail-apr-2021#summary

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"The board says that it monitors the discount closely and seeks opportunities to narrow it. In this regard, the board has powers to buy shares back, and this power has been used. Since 2 May 2017, when PSH initiated its first share repurchase programme, the company has repurchased 50.8 million shares at a total cost of $837m at a discount of 26.5%. The last buyback to occur was on 03/09/2020, at an estimated discount to NAV of 29%.

Lasting solutions to the discount, or a specific catalyst that would result in a re-rating are hard to identify. The articles of association requires that a winding up or termination of the management agreement requires a 75% vote in favour of such a resolution. Given that affiliates of the management company own c. 25% (on a fully diluted basis), then it seems likely they have a blocking vote. The board has undertaken a number of steps to address the discount, including obtaining a premium listing on the London Stock Exchange, repurchasing 21% of shares outstanding (since IPO), and initiating a quarterly dividend."
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Posted: 04 January 2022 10:11:08(UTC)
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Thank you ....MR GL and mdse68 for research and updates......perhaps you should apply for a job with Christopher Brown at Cazenove.....

If anyone is happy to sell shares at this level I am very happy to buy especially as I reduced at higher levels. IMO a discount of 28.5% making them an overweight position.

Have a Happy Discount Playing year.....
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Mr GL on 04/01/2022(UTC)
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