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Ian Eccles
Posted: 02 November 2024 12:06:01(UTC)
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I have just looked at Interactive Investor website for some guidance on SIPP rules.
I think they need to update it due to Wednesday budget, last month I wanted information on International trading and the information on their site was again found wanting and incorrect , in the end had to ring them for an answer to my enquiry
I have checked their site and the error is still present, I wonder how long it will take them to update the new SIPP rules?
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D Bergman
Posted: 02 November 2024 12:27:13(UTC)
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Elspeth Beaton;324295 wrote:
Some thoughts as the dust settles!
Have been happily living tax free off my ISAs until now and letting those inheritance tax free SIPPs accumulate
Done a new inheritance tax assessment and a liability has now arisen of £200000+
So thinking of taking the max income out of the SIPPs up to the 20% tax threshold-paying the tax hit and spending the extra over and above the required yearly drawings on gifts to kids,gracious living etc
Still kicking ideas about
OR………..
Could continue living tax free off my ISAs but try to reduce their total by £200000-could be a better way forward?
xxd09


As we are of the same generation, I've been thinking along similar lines.

It obviously depends on what other sources of income you have (state pensions, DB pensions), but I only have the state pension, so am aware that using up all the ISA funds quickly could lead me to have to pay 40% tax on SIPP income later on.
So I will probably combine drawing down ISAs and SIPP.

Another options (or complementary option) is to make the grandchildren beneficiaries of the SIPP (currently aged 3 & 5, so unlikely to be earning for a while yet).
That way they could draw down an income up to the income tax allowance limit, which could be moved by their parents into child ISAs and general savings for university.

It'll take a while to work out the possibilities!
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Robert D
Posted: 02 November 2024 12:41:44(UTC)
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john brace;324284 wrote:


Regarding the 'wasted' votes for Reform mentioned here, the fight-back has to start somewhere. I wonder how many labour voters now wish they had chosen differently.



Not here. And I imagine the election of Bad Enoch as leader of the Conservatives today will be met with joy in No 10 as she takes the party farther right into the gutter depths of Trumpism.

Pensions as a vehicle to avoid inheritance tax was always wrong and ripe for reform. Investors will adjust.
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Hilda Ogden on 02/11/2024(UTC)
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Posted: 02 November 2024 12:43:19(UTC)
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I think many people are in fact stuffed and mounted over IHT or income tax at 40%. Take my own situation. I already accrue significant surplus income within the SIPP that I don't drawdown. The choice is simple. Pay 40% income tax now or 40% inheritance tax later. Given an almost 7 figure SIPP that is actually increasing in value that's basically the choice I have. I expect a great many people here are in the same boat. That's democracy for you I suppose.
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Jay P
Posted: 02 November 2024 12:55:45(UTC)
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Robert D;324300 wrote:
john brace;324284 wrote:


Regarding the 'wasted' votes for Reform mentioned here, the fight-back has to start somewhere. I wonder how many labour voters now wish they had chosen differently.



Not here. And I imagine the election of Bad Enoch as leader of the Conservatives today will be met with joy in No 10 as she takes the party farther right into the gutter depths of Trumpism.

Pensions as a vehicle to avoid inheritance tax was always wrong and ripe for reform. Investors will adjust.
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Do you have kids, Comrade?
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Use A Tracker
Posted: 02 November 2024 12:59:29(UTC)
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and you also effectively lose part of the £325k nil rate band. It is allocated pro rata over the assets in the estate. But pension fund assets after IHT will then have income tax deducted from the net as well. Effectively a 40% tax payer would lose 40% of the value of the nil rate band amount allocated to the pension value. Sneaky!!
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Robert D
Posted: 02 November 2024 13:09:28(UTC)
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Can you post without using childish labels?
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Ian Eccles
Posted: 02 November 2024 13:11:34(UTC)
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I am THINKING of drawdown, take the tax free element and gift aid the rest, keep it out of the government hands who will only waste it.
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Carl blue nose
Posted: 02 November 2024 13:32:58(UTC)
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Looking at ways to mitigate IHT issue on my pension pot, ideas include;

Equity release to increase debt. Once equity is released give to kids and protect with a GIP

Lease a car rather than own one

Increase credit card debt

Give money away now sticking to gifting allowances

Also my pension pots are part in drawdown part in a SIPP. Currently I have taken 100k TFC with 450k in the SIPP. Would you drawdown the max income up to the HRT limit and pay the 20% tax and leave the SIPP untouched until I can hopefully withdraw TFC up to the max of approx 263k.

Any other thoughts?
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Jay P
Posted: 02 November 2024 14:58:52(UTC)
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Robert D;324306 wrote:

Can you post without using childish labels?

Such as 'Bad Enoch', Comrade?
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